Does it impact Workstation or ESXi (aka ESX)?
VMware Kills Off 56 Products
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#52AWS and Azure rubbing their hands together. We use one of these products and unfortunately will have to abandon ship.
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#53Does it impact Workstation or ESXi (aka ESX)?
I don't think Workstation is changing. ESXi is only available in a subscription bundle now. Free ESXi is gone.
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#54@Dang the current title, and maybe article linked, is going to cause a titanic misunderstanding in what's happening. The 1st party link has a much clearer title "VMware End of Availability of perpetual licensing and associated products" https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/96168?lang=en_US&ref=thestac... E.g. it's not that NSX as a whole is discontinued it's that NSX perpetual licensing is discontinued and you must buy th…
I don't pretend to know the true actual reality of what's going on here, but an article about the end of non-subscription licensing from December of last year is linked in the original article.
The current article is about the KB article you linked that lists 53 products which it says are, as of today, no longer available under any license and have been entirely discontinued.
Again, not claiming that's what's really going on (maybe it's in error, or the products will be bundled with whatever SKUs they're still going to sell?), but it unambiguously says that these products are discontinued. It mentions the earlier end of non-subscription pricing and implies that this is in addition to that.
Edit: Looking further into this, it looks like going forward they will offer two main SKUs, VMware vCenter Foundation and VMware Cloud Foundation, which contain, or contain features from, many of the discontinued products. But none of the listed products will be available separately anymore. It's difficult to find more information than that, because the VMware website is still advertising all of the discontinued stuff as well as the old perpetual licenses that they discontinued a month ago.
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#55Looking forward to when aws does this. Lock in and tighten the screws.
why? loving aws right now, which products do you think they would keep vs kill
Personally I would like AWS et al. to die so that cloud consultants and their associates will go away and I will be able to stop being lectured about "digital transformation" and "the cloud". It's really all very boring now after seeing the same schtick several times.
Probably wishful thinking.
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#56I’m at a loss with VMware. We’ve been full vdi since 2011 and can’t afford cloud solutions. Citrix is overkill. Love Nutanix, but can’t use AHV due to VMware horizon. We’ve had zero or thin clients for all workstations. It’s been so easy, until now.
Hate to be that guy but you were probably warned about going full VDI. Those people were right to warn you.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to VMware/Broadcom in the article: “All licensing options including Perpetual, Support & Subscription (SnS), SaaS/hosted and subscription, as well as all editions, suites and pricing metrics of each product, unless otherwise noted, are included in this announcement. These products are no longer available for purchase.” It reads like these products and any way to purchase them have been axed. What am I missi…
I think the original blog post from VMWare pretty much says what the above person was claiming, if I'm reading it right: https://news.vmware.com/company/vmware-by-broadcom-business-...
That blog post was from December, whereas the story link seems to reference a KB from the other day (or today depending on your time zone): https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/96168?lang=en_US&ref=thestac...
This could be read as the solutions will be made available in other products, but there’s no substantial details about that anywhere that I’ve seen.
I think what this really demonstrates is just how much uncertainty around what Broadcom is actually doing with VMware under its new management …
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#59I remember when Nicira/NSX and the concept of SDN was groundbreaking stuff. Hyperconverged had just become a thing, and VMware was the brightest star in the galaxy. Seeing it shuddered is pretty powerful.
It's not really shuttered it's just become subscription only.
Probably not this quarter, but I wouldn't expect it to last more than two years tops.
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#60@Dang the current title, and maybe article linked, is going to cause a titanic misunderstanding in what's happening. The 1st party link has a much clearer title "VMware End of Availability of perpetual licensing and associated products" https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/96168?lang=en_US&ref=thestac... E.g. it's not that NSX as a whole is discontinued it's that NSX perpetual licensing is discontinued and you must buy th…
I don't pretend to know the true actual reality of what's going on here, but an article about the end of non-subscription licensing from December of last year is linked in the original article. The current article is about the KB article you linked that lists 53 products which it says are, as of today, no longer available under any license and have been entirely discontinued. Again, not claiming that's what's really…
It says "not available for purchase" and that users will be recommended what subscription product to use instead.
It's written horribly complicated, and it leaves a lot of open questions, but what it does not say is that you can't give money to broadcom to get the features of those products. And it's hard to imagine that this is the end of vsphere. It's just the end of buying vsphere.