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Re: Workers are filming their layoffs, then posting to TikTok. What could go wrong?

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Post by fjoireoipe » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 9:11 PM UTC

wizerdrobe wrote: post #3

anigbrowl wrote: post #2

On X, Conservative commentator Candace Owens called Pietsch "young and stupid" after her video went viral: "Now any company that googles Brittany Pietsch will come across this video of her secretly recording the company she was employed at to expose them for doing their job. Unbelievably shortsighted." Candace Owens is also known for her flippant suggestion that 'Hitler was trying to make Germany great again'. If the…

Regardless of bad commentary, it’s a cogent point. Debate the idea, not the idiot.

They could have quoted someone else who made the same point. Instead they chose to give more attention to a troll.

Re: Workers are filming their layoffs, then posting to TikTok. What could go wrong?

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Post by anigbrowl » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 9:11 PM UTC

wizerdrobe wrote: post #3

anigbrowl wrote: post #2

On X, Conservative commentator Candace Owens called Pietsch "young and stupid" after her video went viral: "Now any company that googles Brittany Pietsch will come across this video of her secretly recording the company she was employed at to expose them for doing their job. Unbelievably shortsighted." Candace Owens is also known for her flippant suggestion that 'Hitler was trying to make Germany great again'. If the…

Regardless of bad commentary, it’s a cogent point. Debate the idea, not the idiot.

No. Anyone can form a superficially cogent argument when they don't need to defend it. This one is fallacious because it assumes its conclusion (hard working managers doing their jobs, rather than the reality of being unable to articulate what expectations the laid-off employee failed to meet).

Further, engaging with bad actors (who are generally cynics rather than idiots) normalizes their standing as commentators/public figures, and gives them opportunity to push shitty ideas into public discourse. They're PR professionals who understand how to exploit the dynamics of social media very well and imho to the general detriment.

Re: Workers are filming their layoffs, then posting to TikTok. What could go wrong?

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Post by anigbrowl » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 9:14 PM UTC

hotpotamus wrote: post #5

wizerdrobe wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of bad commentary, it’s a cogent point. Debate the idea, not the idiot.

I was under the impression that the German economy was vastly improved under Hitler, so I think that point at least is valid.

Go read Götz Ali's Hitler's Beneficiaries, which lays out in exhaustive detail the combination of financial chicanery and outright theft that was used to channel wealth toward his political base.

Re: Workers are filming their layoffs, then posting to TikTok. What could go wrong?

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Post by vdaea » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 9:32 PM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #2

On X, Conservative commentator Candace Owens called Pietsch "young and stupid" after her video went viral: "Now any company that googles Brittany Pietsch will come across this video of her secretly recording the company she was employed at to expose them for doing their job. Unbelievably shortsighted." Candace Owens is also known for her flippant suggestion that 'Hitler was trying to make Germany great again'. If the…

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Re: Workers are filming their layoffs, then posting to TikTok. What could go wrong?

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Post by advisedwang » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 9:40 PM UTC

vdaea wrote: post #14

anigbrowl wrote: post #2

On X, Conservative commentator Candace Owens called Pietsch "young and stupid" after her video went viral: "Now any company that googles Brittany Pietsch will come across this video of her secretly recording the company she was employed at to expose them for doing their job. Unbelievably shortsighted." Candace Owens is also known for her flippant suggestion that 'Hitler was trying to make Germany great again'. If the…

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He wanted to make Germany great insofar as greatness means him being in power, his hatred manifest in murder, wealth and rights incredibly unequally distributed and hundreds of millions living as an underclass.

It takes a very warped view of greatness to believe it.

Re: Workers are filming their layoffs, then posting to TikTok. What could go wrong?

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Post by advisedwang » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 9:43 PM UTC

ActorNightly wrote: post #7

It just safe to assume that these videos are staged, until proven otherwise.

It doesn't seem that hard to pull off, nor particularly unlikely that some people will try. So I don't think I expect 'proof' that they are real.

It's like the ice bucket challenge. Sure some people probably will fake it, but I expect many of them are real.

Re: Workers are filming their layoffs, then posting to TikTok. What could go wrong?

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Post by aaron695 » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 9:43 PM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #2

On X, Conservative commentator Candace Owens called Pietsch "young and stupid" after her video went viral: "Now any company that googles Brittany Pietsch will come across this video of her secretly recording the company she was employed at to expose them for doing their job. Unbelievably shortsighted." Candace Owens is also known for her flippant suggestion that 'Hitler was trying to make Germany great again'. If the…

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Re: Workers are filming their layoffs, then posting to TikTok. What could go wrong?

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Post by Kon-Peki » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 9:49 PM UTC

This young lady may or may not have destroyed her career prospects. I have no idea.

But, if the outcome is that all employers need to think about whether their firings/layoffs are broadcast for everyone to see and critique, I’d say that she made the world a little bit better :)

Re: Workers are filming their layoffs, then posting to TikTok. What could go wrong?

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Post by legitster » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 9:54 PM UTC

As a millennial, why does every aspect of our life have to be so performative? People are mistaking attention seeking for "transparency". If you spend every waking of your moment on camera or making everyone around you paranoid about being on camera, no one in your life including yourself is every going to be genuine.

Besides, it's a dumb thing to do. Depending on the state you or the HR person is in you could be violating 2-party consent laws.

Re: Workers are filming their layoffs, then posting to TikTok. What could go wrong?

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Post by k8svet » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 10:07 PM UTC

great_psy wrote: post #9

wizerdrobe wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of bad commentary, it’s a cogent point. Debate the idea, not the idiot.

While the risk is obvious, what is the alternative ? You can go down as a number on the spreadsheet, or you can show everyone else they are also numbers on a spreadsheet. Her behaviour is a first step towards a different workplace. The effectiveness is questionable, but what more can a single, non organized individual can do ?

Some people really thrive in the cage and would prefer to not acknowledge it's existence. That's what this entire thing really boils down to.

No one's saying she did something immoral. Instead the implication is that she broke some social code. Because of course we're all operating on the assumption that corporations hold the power and we should be grateful that they take pity on us to exploit us at all.