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History Is Written by the Losers (2016)

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Re: History Is Written by the Losers (2016)

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Tanner is one of those people I might disagree politically with from time to time but who nevertheless convinces me of the alternative point of view regularly. I see he disses my man Herodotus right off, so now I need to read this to see why. There is, of course, a margin of "losing" from which no history can return. Anyone know about Khazar history? What happened to those guys? The Mongols happened. His series on th…

Why is cybernetics quoted?

Had a different shade of meaning in the Soviet context from the way we use the word today - more like "Computer Science" or "Automatic Theory", rather than robotic or human-robotic or "cyberpunky".

Re: History Is Written by the Losers (2016)

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Would you mind providing links to those “true sources”, please? I’m curious to do some research for myself.

He is probably alluding to the Khazar hypothesis, according to which at least part of the Eastern European (and thus Ashkenazi in general) Jews have Khazar ascendancy.

The scale is very much subject to discussion, but genetic evidences[0] support the core idea.

[0] https://academic.oup.com/gbe/article/5/1/75/730630

Re: History Is Written by the Losers (2016)

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Would you mind providing links to those “true sources”, please? I’m curious to do some research for myself.

they are probably referencing an antisemitic conspiracy theory. I can't tell whether as a joke, or seriously. In any case, it should probably be downvoted, or dang should remove it. it's psuedohistory, invented to spead hate.

Re: History Is Written by the Losers (2016)

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Even paper needs shelter. It must be kept from moths, because they eat holes in it. It must be kept from humidity, because it causes the fibres to expand and the ink to run. It stands to reason that Sima Qian, if he cared about posterity, would have submitted his works to people who make it a point on preserving records. Similarly a person is writing a digital work, they will need to go through a digital analogue of…

In 100 years with minimal, passive effort, a piece of paper will be fragile, but usable. In 100 years, a hard drive will degrade without multiple transfers to new media - an active process. The barrier to digital archival is much higher than paper archival for the average person, and the internet does forget. There's not really an equivalent authority who preserves records for digital works, is there? The Internet Ar…

Yes. The amount of digital data will be like, I don't know, 10 order of magnitude more than paper content. So I think archiving even 0.00001% for long term maybe tall order.

Re: History Is Written by the Losers (2016)

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Why is cybernetics quoted?

Had a different shade of meaning in the Soviet context from the way we use the word today - more like "Computer Science" or "Automatic Theory", rather than robotic or human-robotic or "cyberpunky".

It had the same different meaning outside the Soviet context too. Check out, for example, Norbert Wiener, as American as they come and considered the inventor of "cybernetics" in that "old-school" sense.

Re: History Is Written by the Losers (2016)

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Would you mind providing links to those “true sources”, please? I’m curious to do some research for myself.

they are probably referencing an antisemitic conspiracy theory. I can't tell whether as a joke, or seriously. In any case, it should probably be downvoted, or dang should remove it. it's psuedohistory, invented to spead hate.

I think it’s obviously it’s a joke. However, there’s even a smiley at the end of the comment, as a clue for the people with broken humour detector. I hope you saw it.

Re: History Is Written by the Losers (2016)

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Had a different shade of meaning in the Soviet context from the way we use the word today - more like "Computer Science" or "Automatic Theory", rather than robotic or human-robotic or "cyberpunky".

It had the same different meaning outside the Soviet context too. Check out, for example, Norbert Wiener, as American as they come and considered the inventor of "cybernetics" in that "old-school" sense.

https://bailiping.github.io/assets/docs/Books/Cybernetics,%2...
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