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Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by bombcar »

jacquesm wrote: post #246
0x457 wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is he supposed to refer to her? ex-wife is incorrect. By name doesn't provide enough context for people that don't know about him. The fact is - he killed his wife. > To all practical intents and purposes she was no longer 'his wife' It doesn't work like that, though. My soon-to-be-ex-wife is still listed as spouse on our health insurance because I can't remove her until the divorce is finalized. I still have to…

That's besides the point, the question is whether you still think of her and refer to her as 'your wife'. And then extrapolate to the - obviously hypothetical - situation in which you murdered your soon-to-be-ex-wife and still refer to her as 'my wife' many years later. It's bizarre that this needs to be spelled out. This isn't a legal issue, it's a bit of insight in how Reiser feels about the person he murdered.

I'd say that saying "my wife" makes it worse for him than saying "my ex-wife", maybe that's just me.

Doubly so because she's, you know, dead.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by fl7305 »

scotty79 wrote: post #239
fl7305 wrote: post #233

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> anyone who volunteers to be a killer has something wrong in him Consider the native american indian warriors who volunteered to defend their land against the invaders. Or jews in Poland who volunteered to defend against the Germans in WW2. Does your statement apply to them as well?

Of course. Some of them. Not everone who joins the army is a volunteer killer. Some people just want to help. Treat wounds. Recover wounded. Scare the enemy away. Some tentatively accept that some people might die in the process. People tend to accept that in war people die. They are more like armed robbers who'd love to have their goals met without killing anyone but some are accepting that someone might die in the…

Are you a pacifist who thinks that it is never OK to take a life, no matter the circumstances? In that case I understand what you think, even if that is not my way of thinking.

If you are not a pacifist, then I don't understand how you think a peaceful society should act when an aggressive neighbor tries to kill all of them?

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by arp242 »

bostonsre wrote: post #210

Were there technical reasons for the deprecation or was it more of a cancelled type thing?

Aside from general maintenance burden, it's not year-2038 proof. I believe that's the main reason for removing it now, so people don't run in to this in 2038 (some kernels have very long support cycles, are used in embedded devices, etc.)

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by bombcar »

andai wrote: post #186
masklinn wrote: post #44

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What sentence of 3 years are you talking about? The judge offered (and prosecutors agreed to) a plea guilty of second-degree murder (down from the first degree murder he was convicted of) if he revealed the location of the body and gave closure to her Nina’s children and family. He got 15 to life, the maximum for second-degree murder, and his first request for parole was rejected so he’s doing at least 20 for now.

Remarkable. Would it really have been 3 years if he'd accepted? That seems far too low. On the other hand, the first degree homicide seems absurd given the evidence. Did they just give him that because he refused to cooperate, and not because it was actually an accurate verdict?

Everything I've seen indicates that the "court" seemed to think it was a case of "murder in red blood" or whatever they call getting angry and killing your wife these days, with a dose of "very intentional coverup afterwards".

Had he driven the car with her dead body directly to the police, he probably would have received the three year sentence or even less.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by __david__ »

starfallg wrote: post #190
pdntspa wrote: post #114

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Certainly, I have an issue with this idea that everything a person does gets cancelled because the person gets cancelled. Particularly in this era of intense political polarization.... It is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The world is full of examples of art and science from troubled individuals; much of our foundational understanding of certain areas of science is derived from the learned experiences of i…

ReiserFS and BTRFS are the only 2 Linux filesystems that truly ate my data. Everything else I was able to substantially recover from.

I had XFS eat some data once. I somehow got it into a state where it wouldn't mount and wouldn't fsck. Luckily for me it was "just" my backup disk, so after a week of fighting with it I just gave up and reformatted (as ext4) and didn't end up losing much. Was eye opening though. I'd rather have a slightly less featureful fs that I have a chance of recovering…

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by flatt »

kstrauser wrote: post #56

That was fascinating. It sounds like he’s done some real introspection during his lockup, and I hope he’s able to apply those learnings to future situations. I felt bad for him[0] while reading. He was a brilliant young person with a big dream, yet without the interpersonal skills to help him realize it. I’ve seen that so often. Maybe this will help me look past the next person’s challenging communications, and think…

I mean nothing personal by it but all I see when I see posts like yours (and many others in this thread), is that the average person understands nothing about psychopathy. What he did was premeditated. His brain is wired in such a way that killing his wife was always an option. No amount of neuroplasticity will override this baked-in reality of who this man is. Teaching psychopaths social skills will not provide them with the idealized "personal growth" you imagine. I highly recommend, "The Psychopath Test" by Jon Ronson (of "The Mean That Stare at Goats" fame) as an amusing but on-point introduction.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by revel »

_chu1 wrote: post #241
revel wrote: post #94

The contents of the letter are interesting in their own right, but there are 2 aspects that strike me as particularly interesting. First off, he doesn't seem to regret killing his wife, more the consequences of his crime. He doesn't mention her by name or say that she didn't deserve it. Secondly, the person he's corresponding with, Fredrick Brennan is fascinating in his own right. He's one of the 3 central characters…

> QAnon I have never heard of, seen or even got wind of a "QAnon" member, group, theory, website or whatever they say it is outside of mainstream news. According to them it's some huge group of evil people but I can't tell myself that they're a real thing. If anyone has any real world, personal experience I would love to hear it.

If you have a subscription, the HBO documentary I mentioned, Q: Into the Storm is excellent. I think that the struggle mainstream news orgs have in talking about QAnon is that it's very difficult to encapsulate all the interlocking conspiracies and figures. There's also a wide degree of variance for what various bits and pieces mean, but there are a few central tenets. The main one is that there's a mysterious high ranking figure in the government, Q (who gets his name due to the Q-level security clearance he or she has). Q makes very abstract posts on 4chan -- and then other sites -- that seem to suggest that there's a massive pedophile ring inside the government and that Donald Trump is working to expose it from within. Many figures are implicated and, by strange coincidence, they happen to be figures that the far right detests. The Clintons and Bill Gates take starring roles but honestly it's impossible to keep track of it all.

Into the Storm is centrally focused on the identity of Q, but in the process of pursuing the answer the creator of the documentary, Cullen Hoback, ends up going on an absolutely wild hunt. I find documentaries of this sort to be a bit hit-or-miss, but this is one of the best of its subgenre. The subculture and background surrounding QAnon is interesting in its own right but, of course, the real highlight is the characters. Fredrick Brenan, Jim & Ron Watkins, and Hoback himself are fascinating individuals.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by jacquesm »

bombcar wrote: post #261
jacquesm wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's besides the point, the question is whether you still think of her and refer to her as 'your wife'. And then extrapolate to the - obviously hypothetical - situation in which you murdered your soon-to-be-ex-wife and still refer to her as 'my wife' many years later. It's bizarre that this needs to be spelled out. This isn't a legal issue, it's a bit of insight in how Reiser feels about the person he murdered.

I'd say that saying "my wife" makes it worse for him than saying "my ex-wife", maybe that's just me. Doubly so because she's, you know, dead.

That's how I read it as well.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by PH95VuimJjqBqy »

iaw wrote: post #37
JadeNB wrote: post #16

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> I want to believe redemption is possible, especially given how eloquent he is, but his demonstration of calculation over emotion in her murder makes me strongly question his change. I think it would be ridiculous for me to presume that I can possibly have any view into whether or not someone has sincerely changed, but why should the fact that someone was calculating once affect whether they have changed? I could se…

I consider it a Bayesian approach to understanding potential internal drivers. Someone who is not cold and calculating likely has less capacity to completely present the appearance of redemption whereas someone who is calculating has that capacity. So, someone who is demonstrated to be calculating has higher odds of faking a behavior if it is beneficial to them (e.g. leaving prison). It's for him to know, but I don't…

the assumption here is that your judgement of calculating is accurate.

Re: Hans Reiser on ReiserFS deprecation in the Linux kernel

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Post by kstrauser »

cperciva wrote: post #197
kstrauser wrote: post #113

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That's very possible. Some of his phrasing sounded like he hoped the parole board would be reading it: I accept responsibility for my crime, I'm using the skills I'm learning in prison, etc. etc. Still, if you asked me about my own sins, I might say similar things: I accept responsibility for acting like a jackass, I'm using the skills I've learned from mentors and through meditation and mindfulness, etc. etc. I'd be…

Some of his phrasing sounded like he hoped the parole board would be reading it: I accept responsibility for my crime, I'm using the skills I'm learning in prison, etc. etc. This is true; but it also struck me as being very similar to things I've heard from recovering addicts going through 12-step programs -- I'm an addict, I'm sorry for all the harm I caused through my addiction, I'm learning skills to help me overc…

Definitely, and I hope for his sake that's the actual explanation, and that it's sincere.

That is, while we're talking about a specific person here, that person is someone I have zero connection with. I hope all the Hanses around the world are working on themselves with good intent. That's obviously untrue, but I can still wish it.

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