Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion

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Post by alexknight » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 7:23 PM UTC

Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion
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Re: Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion

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Post by avolcano » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 7:39 PM UTC

I have to say, while Chrome has a few issues on OSX, I was really impressed with how quickly they added full screening, Lion-style scrollbars, elastic scrolling, and surprisingly polished two-finger swipe gestures. Hopefully Firefox will get up to speed soon.

Re: Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion

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Post by _gfrc » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 7:44 PM UTC

That's generally the problem when multi-platform software wants to "feel" the same on every platform. It just doesn't work. Mac users are used to a different UI, so even if you think that you approach is better, just don't do it. When it comes to usability, try to do it how everyone else developing for the platform is doing it.

Re: Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion

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Post by jaykru » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 7:52 PM UTC

I find Firefox has much smoother scrolling for me on OS X, compared to Chrome. The rubber band effect for me normally is quite a slowdown.

Re: Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion

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Post by oinksoft » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 7:52 PM UTC

I'd just like to say that I'm very thankful Firefox has neither invisible scrollbars nor inertial scrolling. F11 is full-screen in Firefox.

Re: Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion

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Post by pazimzadeh » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 8:01 PM UTC

avolcano wrote: post #2

I have to say, while Chrome has a few issues on OSX, I was really impressed with how quickly they added full screening, Lion-style scrollbars, elastic scrolling, and surprisingly polished two-finger swipe gestures. Hopefully Firefox will get up to speed soon.

I mostly agree, but I find Chrome's two-finger swipe gestures to be terrible. It's really hard to "cancel" a swipe if you've already (accidentally) started swiping.

Re: Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion

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Post by spicyj » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 8:06 PM UTC

oinksoft wrote: post #5

I'd just like to say that I'm very thankful Firefox has neither invisible scrollbars nor inertial scrolling. F11 is full-screen in Firefox.

Why? You can turn those off globally if you don't like them.

Re: Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion

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Post by forgotusername » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 8:06 PM UTC

oinksoft wrote: post #5

I'd just like to say that I'm very thankful Firefox has neither invisible scrollbars nor inertial scrolling. F11 is full-screen in Firefox.

Adding to that, I've no problem whatsoever with Mozilla's choice to not implement these (braindamaged without exception, IMHO) features, as these choices are partially what drives me to use Firefox, and the only feedback Apple might ever listen to with regard to drunk scrolling and suchlike is user uptake.

Here Firefox enables me to vote with my feet.

Re: Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion

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Post by comex » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 8:11 PM UTC

spicyj wrote: post #7

oinksoft wrote: post #5

I'd just like to say that I'm very thankful Firefox has neither invisible scrollbars nor inertial scrolling. F11 is full-screen in Firefox.

Why? You can turn those off globally if you don't like them.

Indeed, and there is no excuse for jerky scrolling and a broken full screen mode.

Re: Firefox: Not A Good Citizen on OS X Lion

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Post by forgotusername » Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 8:13 PM UTC

comex wrote: post #9

spicyj wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? You can turn those off globally if you don't like them.

Indeed, and there is no excuse for jerky scrolling and a broken full screen mode.

> there is no excuse for jerky scrolling

Unless those jerks have a 1:1 correspondence to actual user input events

> broken full screen mode

Multiwindow, multiscreen OS supporting only a single maximized window on a single screen, with totally uninformative, pretentious >500ms mandatory transition animation. "Broken"