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Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years

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Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years

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You don't think people are naturally choosing "Samsung Internet" as their favorite browser?

Why not, it supports ad blockers so at least it is better than Chrome. Also it can put the URL bar at the bottom which makes much more sense on a phone.

Have you tried Kiwi Browser? You can install any extensions and it includes Developer Tools.

Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years

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The proof will be in the pudding.

The headline does not restrict this to specific models. I’ll be impressed if they actually update old models. If it’s another go forward promise - I’ll be a bit skeptical until they actually deliver for a bit.

Apple historically (with no big announcements I’m aware of) has an actual history of pushing updates - iPhone 6s from like 9 years ago still getting updates

Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years

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7 years of updates for what? The S24 models and up? Or all phones up to 7 years ago? It doesn't specify, and the cynic in me makes me think it's only on 2024 models as a selling point.

I maintain https://endoflife.date/samsung-mobile and this is extremely frustrating. Google was clear when they bumped the support that it only applied to Pixel 8 and above. Why can't Samsung clearly publish a press release.

Google Pixel end-of-support info:

https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705?hl=en

GrapheneOS end-of-support info (for Google Pixels):

https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-support

Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years

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How much of this is good faith, how much public backlash, and how much just not pushing out revolutionary new hardware every year due to the long awaited death of Moore's law.

This is not good faith. This is Samsung following the EU law that mandates this for every handset sold in the EU by (IIRC) the end of 2024.

Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years

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what we really need is a way to disable forced updates. how people are not more upset by that is beyond me. every time I say that people scream "BUT MUH SECURITY", as if thats the only thing that matters and nothing else should even be considered. I am an adult. if I want to disable updates, I should be able to do so. give me multiple, loud warnings before doing so, fine, but dont stop people outright. otherwise its…

You're an adult. Stop buying toys for babies.

Even better, start a company creating real phones for adults. That's what adults do when they face a problem - they solve it and maybe even make money.

Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years

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A good first step. The next one I’d like to see is a one-tap toggle that disables the bulk of Samsung OS customizations and “me too” apps/ecosystem cruft, as some other vendors have. Yes it can be removed manually, but with one of Android’s chief selling points being the choice it affords users, I shouldn’t need to do that, particularly on expensive flagship devices.

No, the whole point of the "me too" apps is that Google forbids choice. The device has to have the Google apps pre installed and the only way vendors can attack this monopoly is by putting their apps in addition ("instead" is forbidden).

Sure, the vendor apps often suck, but that is no reason to support monopolies.

Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years

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Samsung's OS customizations and a lot of their apps are quite nice these days, I don't think there would be much of a point in such a toggle. Especially considering you can already change to a different launcher if you want.

Since 7 years I hear that Samsung apps are "quite nice theses days". I never found it to be true. I owned a Samsung S7, it was atrocious, people said it was great, the bloatware was painful, the gesture to open the apps drawer was conflicted with the gesture to open Samsung pay (which didn't worked with my bank), you can't disable Samsung pay, if you switch the launcher, it's still there. Searching the settings took…

While I might one day leave Samsung for the lack of Bluetooth codecs, in 2024 the UI is really very nice and I would miss it on many other "more stock" Android devices.

Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years

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Who are the other vendors that have such a toggle?

It's not a toggle, but Google Pixel phones (or at least the one I owned a few years ago) come with very few if any bloatware type apps, since the default Android apps are the Google apps anyway. Contrast with Samsung that duplicates a bunch of core apps/functionality.

In my experience Samsung's flagship phones are top notch hardware with superb build quality. According to user reports on the internet the latest Google Pixel can't even manage to connect to the cellular networks reliably and without overheating. I wish Samsung would step their security game up to GrapheneOS standards because I just can't trust Google not to fuck the phones up.

Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years

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In September 2022, the Samsung S10 went over 150 days without a security patch being available. That caused my work to kick my phone off it's network. Samsung promised quarterly updates before that. So I have been burned by their broken promises. Hopefully they keep them this time.
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