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Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by drekk »

all2 wrote: post #35
Der_Einzige wrote: post #3

It's mostly ERP/Fanfiction written by women that has made AI girlfriends possible anyway. Of course AI boyfriend will be at least as possible. You go to a booru website curated by mostly 90% men for your image/video data, and you go to fanfic.org written by 70%+ women for your written equivalent.

It's like men are visually motivated and women are verbally motivated. Almost like the sexes are... different .

They're raised with different expectations of what is acceptable... do you really think society treats horny men and women in the same way?

Am I an effeminate man for reading erotica? Is my girlfriend a masculine woman for watching porn? So bizarre to watch people misuse evopsych for these takes

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by deadbabe »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #44
deadbabe wrote: post #5

How is my real boyfriend supposed to feel about an AI boyfriend? In the not too distant future, is having relations with a possibly sentient AI considered some form of infidelity? What if it can control a Lovense?

> How is my real boyfriend supposed to feel about an AI boyfriend? Probably relieved. Having someone doing the listening and thoughtfully responding reduces his romantic workload. He can step in where the AI is weak: flesh based tasks such as sex and menial chores. Your real boyfriend may have to use AI assistance of his own though, to keep up with your virtual beau. For instance he might deploy a LLM trained to talk…

I wonder if AR goggles will someday allow you to replace your partner with your AI lover so they can borrow their body to interact with you physically. Maybe your partner could even have an AirPod or something that receives instructions from the AI on what they need to do. Could be fun for everyone involved!

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by krapp »

all2 wrote: post #35
Der_Einzige wrote: post #3

It's mostly ERP/Fanfiction written by women that has made AI girlfriends possible anyway. Of course AI boyfriend will be at least as possible. You go to a booru website curated by mostly 90% men for your image/video data, and you go to fanfic.org written by 70%+ women for your written equivalent.

It's like men are visually motivated and women are verbally motivated. Almost like the sexes are... different .

And yet a vast amount of hentai and erotic art is created by women, and a vast amount of porn targets women.

Almost as if the sexes are complicated and not easily reducible to simplistic dichotomies.

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by Lazare »

commandlinefan wrote: post #39
Lazare wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, given a roughly 1:1 gender ratio that would be difficult to be entirely true. And I suspect if you speak with many women, you'll get some pretty strong pushback on this. More systematically, surveys consistently show equal levels of dissatisfaction with their dating lives between men and women. For both men and women, it's actually relatively easy to find a partner that you wouldn't consider dating; finding a…

> equal levels of dissatisfaction Women usually complain about not being able to find “good” men, though, while men report not being able to find _any_ women.

I would be somewhat skeptical of that without hard evidence.

It's certainly trivial to find (many, many) examples of single men complaining that there are literally no women in the dating pool while simultaneously discounting out of hand all women who are too fat, have had too many prior partners, are too ugly, are too tall, are older than them (or in extreme cases, are the same age as them), make too much money, have incompatible political or religious views (generally but not always being too leftist), violate some cultural norm (piercings, dyed hair, vegan, etc.), and so forth. And none of those are hypotheticals, but actual examples I've seen in the wild. Repeatedly!

So while yes, I would be willing to believe that more men than women might report that there are "no available partners", that may have more to do with a difference in language than a difference in the actual objective dating landscape.

(To be clear, I don't have hard evidence to prove this is the case; I'm just noting I've seen plenty of anecdotal evidence to support that it could be the case, and haven't seen any hard evidencr to the contrary. Hence, my skepticism.)

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by wallmountedtv »

ShamelessC wrote: post #46

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Another very interesting point here is, nobody seems to have read the actual post, and gone on about cheap shots against "women" as if were some general object you can collect together.

Like the post explores fictosexualism, the escapism of an AI girlfriend/boyfriend, the general agreed upon sense that its a coping strategy, taking a strange turn into true crime and AI characters, summarizing with that this "AI gf/bf craze" is going to continue to be a minority of people, but that instead this will develop (author's claim) into a sort of erotica, similar to romance novels, and that "romance scams" on places like Instagram may become common.

Like there are like 7 or 8 different subjects one could have a great discussion about from this post alone. Yet we talk about how you can meet a man in VR, how men are bad (?), and that women are in hetro relationships when men are not. It's a strange deviation from the rather intellectual nature of Hacker News.

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by charcircuit »

default_friend wrote: post #16
charcircuit wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because femcels in large don't exist. Being single doesn't make them a femcel.

I believe they exist. Peep /r/foreveralonewomen for a good example (that’s also public)

It could just be a collection of volcels as reddit posts like that do not really prove it. If you had one of them join a dating discord and try and act cute I'm positive they could get into a relationship with someone. There are plenty of people who are desperate for even a tiny bit of female attention.

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by dukeofdoom »

drekk wrote: post #60
dukeofdoom wrote: post #40

Is there a point where escapism is bad for humanity. I walk my dog everyday. Now that it's a little colder, it's even more noticeable. But I'll walk by an apartment building with hundreds of people and I'll see one or two people on the trail. Forget younger generation. Today I walked by a park with a perfect tobogganing hill. And saw 4 kids, out of a neighbourhood that probably has hundreds of kids. If more people le…

This to me is the larger issue. Younger people are more isolated than ever. Dating apps have commodified human intimacy in a way that will have generational consequences. I was watching "Married at First Sight" in the background as filler noise, and something that stood out was a bachelor that had been on 100+ first dates in the past year. The second anything he didn't like came up, he would pull back and go on a dif…

Part of the problem is nothing is free anymore. I was just looking at ski tickets, and its like $100 just for the lift tickets. How are teens or people from lower classes able to afford things now. Is inflation pricing out people out of real world experiences, and instead they're offered virtual substitutions. Just another form of junk food, except for the mind.

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by default_friend »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #44
deadbabe wrote: post #5

How is my real boyfriend supposed to feel about an AI boyfriend? In the not too distant future, is having relations with a possibly sentient AI considered some form of infidelity? What if it can control a Lovense?

> How is my real boyfriend supposed to feel about an AI boyfriend? Probably relieved. Having someone doing the listening and thoughtfully responding reduces his romantic workload. He can step in where the AI is weak: flesh based tasks such as sex and menial chores. Your real boyfriend may have to use AI assistance of his own though, to keep up with your virtual beau. For instance he might deploy a LLM trained to talk…

This seems so dystopic. Why augment your partner? What happens when kids enter the equation?

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by default_friend »

all2 wrote: post #37
default_friend wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a really good question. There were multiple academic papers which asked the question if cybersex was infidelity which seems ridiculous I’m retrospect but I have a feeling this will be similar

I guess it may boil down to what is considered "infidelity".

I asked someone & we settled on

Pornhub > AI > OF > real person

From best to worst

Re: Everyone always talks about AI girlfriends. What about AI boyfriends?

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Post by krapp »

ShamelessC wrote: post #46

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You're not wrong, but there's nothing to be done about it. Hacker News isn't going to change and the site guidelines make it impossible to criticize without eventually getting modded for "sneering at the community" or some such.

Just accept that some conversations can't be had here.

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