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Ask HN: What's the best car without undesirable features?

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Re: Ask HN: What's the best car without undesirable features?

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The new LandCruiser 70 series matches exactly what you want. I believe you can buy them in many countries (U.S. not included). https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46001237/toyota-land-crui...

Under what circumstances would a BJ70 get over, or anywhere near, 30 MPG?

Ah, totally missed that part. I was mostly thinking about the low/no tech angle.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best car without undesirable features?

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The new LandCruiser 70 series matches exactly what you want. I believe you can buy them in many countries (U.S. not included). https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46001237/toyota-land-crui...

Seems that some will reach the US, and I hope so. This seems great, and thank you!

Re: Ask HN: What's the best car without undesirable features?

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Well I an tell you right now you don't need 4wd, it snows like a MF where I live and if you have FWD with proper snow tires (which you should regardless), you will drive circles around 4WD/AWD cars with just all season tires on in winter. Just buy a mid-2010's honda civic or a toyota camry.

The main disadvantage of FWD is that sometimes you'll be legally required to put chains on in circumstances where the AWD/4WD is exempt.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best car without undesirable features?

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post #28

The new LandCruiser 70 series matches exactly what you want. I believe you can buy them in many countries (U.S. not included). https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46001237/toyota-land-crui...

Under what circumstances would a BJ70 get over, or anywhere near, 30 MPG?

30MPG and AWD is already a pretty tough combo to satisfy. Guess it points to Subaru.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best car without undesirable features?

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4. Touchscreens - I'd say these are useful for running android auto or apple car play? - But this would fall into your tracking/internet criteria for Google at least.

All I need is Bluetooth and/or AUX. Head units get crufty and are hard or impossible to upgrade, unlike my phone on a magnetic mount.

And CarPlay won't even necessarily work as a reliable aux. I've been in plenty of rental cars where somehow my music lags or stutters over it. It's trash.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best car without undesirable features?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Used car with front wheel drive, preferably traction control, put Blizzaks on all four wheels and you’ll do OK in snow unless you insist on driving on unplowed roads. There's more to cars in snowy climate than driving. OP clearly wants AWD, why tell him he doesn't really want it? As someone who's lived North most of their life, AWD is clearly a big advantage both for driving and for getting unstuck. Have you never…

During the part of my life when I lived in an intensely snowy climate, I never had a vehicle with four-wheel drive, and never had any issues. Four-wheel drive is a crutch to get you into situations your brakes can't get you out of.

I’ve had all kinds of problems in the snow but I’m a New Yorker so I cope. I dig other people out more often than get stuck myself.

The AWD vehicle has a more complex drivetrain, will be more expensive to maintain and probably get worse gas mileage. Friends of mine swear by Subaru but I think they are crazy. If I wanted AWD I think I’d look for a small SUV like a Ford Escape.

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