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Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years
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Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Samsung's OS customizations and a lot of their apps are quite nice these days, I don't think there would be much of a point in such a toggle. Especially considering you can already change to a different launcher if you want.
Since 7 years I hear that Samsung apps are "quite nice theses days". I never found it to be true. I owned a Samsung S7, it was atrocious, people said it was great, the bloatware was painful, the gesture to open the apps drawer was conflicted with the gesture to open Samsung pay (which didn't worked with my bank), you can't disable Samsung pay, if you switch the launcher, it's still there. Searching the settings took…
They are industry leading in Android for quite some time. They often have innovations first that then Google generalizes in Android itself. For example, lock screen customization, secure folder, even work profile was first available on Samsung devices. Samsung literally contributed work profile (Knox) to AOSP.
Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years
#53what we really need is a way to disable forced updates. how people are not more upset by that is beyond me. every time I say that people scream "BUT MUH SECURITY", as if thats the only thing that matters and nothing else should even be considered.
I am an adult. if I want to disable updates, I should be able to do so. give me multiple, loud warnings before doing so, fine, but dont stop people outright. otherwise its no longer an operating system, but a toy for babies.
Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years
#54It seems this is only for the new S24 series. I hope this gradually extends to lower ranges. Personally, I find a 2023 phone at 1/8th of the price [1] to be sufficient for my use (spec-wise) Now a removable battery and Less "freezing" [2] please. [1] https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12583&idPhone... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38995719
I was genuinely hoping that this would extend back to at least the 10 series. I'm still daily driving my S10+ that I got when it first came out with no major issues other than the eventual lack of updates. Battery life is still great, very minimal wear and tear. Only real complaint I have at this point is that, post TMobile-Sprint merger, signal strength is rather odd at work now.
I was hoping it would come to the S23 at least but also no :'(
Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years
#55It's great to see vendors doing the right thing. Still, my main ask is upstreamed support. Users should be able to maintain their own devices if they want to. From the start of ownership to beyond the products end of life. That means I should be able to build my own kernel and send them to the device, and I shouldn't need some vendor fork that will someday rot out to do it.
Qualcomm is doing a lot of work on upstreaming for the latest Snapdragon which should be used in the S24.
Only if you're in the Us, China or Korea unfortunately. The S23 had Snapdragon everywhere. The S24 only in those three markets sadly.
Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years
#56What budget phones right now have a decent number of years for security updates and run stock Android? I tried to get this info a couple of years ago and it took some serious digging to find when each phone was released and how long updates are meant to last as there's no central place to find this. Maybe there's a good resource for this now? Nokia phones are meant to be nearly stock Android I think with 3 years of u…
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Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't think people are naturally choosing "Samsung Internet" as their favorite browser?
I have a galaxy fold 5 as my secondary phone and when I first got it I was trying to see what people were using on android in 2023, and fold users overwhelmingly suggested the Samsung internet browser on Reddit. It's.. fine, I was disappointed immediately as even my iPhone in native safari supports greasemonkey scripts.
Secondary phone?
Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years
#587 years of updates for what? The S24 models and up? Or all phones up to 7 years ago? It doesn't specify, and the cynic in me makes me think it's only on 2024 models as a selling point.
Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years
#59It's great to see vendors doing the right thing. Still, my main ask is upstreamed support. Users should be able to maintain their own devices if they want to. From the start of ownership to beyond the products end of life. That means I should be able to build my own kernel and send them to the device, and I shouldn't need some vendor fork that will someday rot out to do it.
Google could have built a system like that from the start, where Google-certified Android means you have a vanilla base image, plus (openly available) drivers, plus whatever crap the manufacturer wants to layer on top. Basically not unlike Windows.
Unfortunately they didn't do that, so it's still a mess.
Re: Samsung extends Android and security updates to 7 years
#60Where can one go to verify these claims straight from the source? the Internet is full of "mobile news" sites that claim Samsung are doing this or Google are doing that, but they are impossible to verify. I would hope that Samsung would at least put out a press release, or there'd be a link to some release note, or _something_, but nothing.
Where do other HN readers go to verify these types of stories?