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AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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Post by __loam »

bsenftner wrote: post #34
hedgew wrote: post #28

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What exactly do you think you can learn at that point, that'd give you market value?

Seriously: it's time to get an MBA if you've ever considered it. Why? Because an MBA teaches one how organizations operate, from non-profits, to government agencies, to startups, and all the transitions to a major conglomerate. As AI proposes to change how all this is done, those of us that understand the essentials of designing, implementing, and maintaining dynamic automated systems that incorporate AI to operate o…

This site is a parody of itself.

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Post by techdragon »

Sateeshm wrote: post #66
bsenftner wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously: it's time to get an MBA if you've ever considered it. Why? Because an MBA teaches one how organizations operate, from non-profits, to government agencies, to startups, and all the transitions to a major conglomerate. As AI proposes to change how all this is done, those of us that understand the essentials of designing, implementing, and maintaining dynamic automated systems that incorporate AI to operate o…

It AI makes senior engineers obsolete what makes you think it won't do the same to MBAs

In my albeit limited experience so far… ChatGPT4 is surprisingly good at “doing the MBA bullshit” as I call it. Vague thoughts go in from me the user, coherent business jargon comes out and I can even ask for an explanation if it tosses me a term I’ve never heard before so I can make sure I actually understand the suggested MBA bullshit that I loathe thinking/writing like and can then use it properly.

I wouldn’t be betting like the GP that an MBA will somehow help more than other skillsets… the fact that it already seems like ChatGPT4 is at least capable of MBA ish things at at a quality level that approximates at least basic levels of competency in the field of business management… should not really be a surprise when you think about how much gets written about management by managers to other people in business and management, lots of training data.

Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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Post by beepbooptheory »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #61
paulluuk wrote: post #27

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> Unemployment is actually at an all time low despite centuries of industrialization, automation, etc. You've got an interesting point there. But I'm wondering, isn't this mostly true for places like the US? Looking at it globally, it's a bit of a mixed bag: the global unemployment now is higher than 30 years ago, for example. And about the industrialisation bit – I mostly agree with you, but let's not forget the har…

> Small sidenote: calling your own view 'realistic' might put some people off. It sort of implies other opinions are not, you know? I'm just countering the cynical view here; which at least puts me off. Anyway, there's always somebody that is going to disagree. To me the cynical view is historically always there and usually wrong. I don't actually agree that AI is causing any perceived worker injustice. The US is a b…

The opposite of a cynical view is an optimistic one, not a realistic one. Optimism like yours has been as wrong as cynicism throughout history, and its unrealistic to believe otherwise.

Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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Post by bsenftner »

Sateeshm wrote: post #66
bsenftner wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously: it's time to get an MBA if you've ever considered it. Why? Because an MBA teaches one how organizations operate, from non-profits, to government agencies, to startups, and all the transitions to a major conglomerate. As AI proposes to change how all this is done, those of us that understand the essentials of designing, implementing, and maintaining dynamic automated systems that incorporate AI to operate o…

It AI makes senior engineers obsolete what makes you think it won't do the same to MBAs

But a senior engineer with an MBA is neither, they are both and more. A senior engineer with an MBA is far more capable than the majority realize. They can optimize within a business to the degree entire departments are automated. Serious: we all work in complex organizations, and knowing how they are composed and how they interoperate, and how all that is boiled into an accounting soup is what an MBA teaches. If we're supposed to be automating all that, having an MBA is essential to not be a mindless minion working on processes without knowledge of how your work fits into the whole during this gargantuan transition.

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Post by happytiger »

neilwilson wrote: post #56
happytiger wrote: post #50

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The short answer is because markets are not monolithic. You can have all kinds of price and market distortion as long as it’s a small group of people or a group of people that has a significant wealth effect over those that do not have it. Just like you have services and products specifically for multimillionaires and billionaires, where you can get things that nobody else has, and in many cases even aware exist, you…

You can't have price rises without scarcity. AI makes things less scarce and easier to produce. And it is nothing new. Computers used to be a job title.

You most certainly can. Otherwise there would be no such thing as luxury goods.

All I am suggesting is that given enough concentration of capital, anything can become a luxury good.

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Post by andirk »

marsRoverDev wrote: post #33
andirk wrote: post #26

If what I do as a seasoned software engineer becomes redundant because of "artificial intelligence", so be it. Then I'll need to learn more, which I am! I'm not in the business of stiffening technology like an oil baron. I do understand that IP, for example using an actor's likeness via CGI+AI, is a very real issue that needs to be addressed.

A propos the likeness point, a question to get people's opinions. What is the difference between your skills today which lead to earning potential and an actor's likeness which gives the actor more rights to a continued income stream?

My software engineering skills are more that of a robot and if someone could make many of me, I/we could get a lot more done and that's a good thing. An actor has 1 likeness as their skill so it should be at their discretion. Plenty of overlap between the two situations, but to really replicate my skillset to the point where it could be harnessed outside of my control is a lot more sophisticated than replicating someone's image, voice, mannerisms, etc.
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