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Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs

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Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs

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Post by eastbound »

al_borland wrote: post #40
bavent wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big surprise, the jobs that pay more attract more people than the jobs that pay less. My partner has a bio undergrad degree, she works in a field having nothing to do with it because she didn’t want to pursue masters/phd.

I worked with a guy in a data center who had a degree in geology. Computers paid better I guess, so he transitioned over.

Makes me question our decentralized assignation of studies. With communist centralized planning, the country makes a 5-year plan and students are assigned to the fields in demand, with the (high) risk that the central planner was wrong (because his pay doesn’t align with accurate planning). With decentralized capitalism, students decide for themselves, agree to be in debt for life if they’re wrong, attempt to collect information among a jungle of commercial bullshit from for-profit universities and marketing, so that they’re very often wrong as well, and choose a field of study at the junction between interesting, in demand (as perceived), and nice pictures on the uni brochure (principal criteria in my opinion).

Then they convert to IT anyway. I wonder whether our acceptance for this system isn’t just that we blame the student for having chosen wrong, relieving us from feeling that we’re responsible for their debt and horrific life conditions.

Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs

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Post by cpursley »

panzagl wrote: post #114
cpursley wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Florida is currently eating the lunch of most other states in terms of domestic migration, so while we might not check off the "elitist" boxes, we're apparently doing something right.

Attracting old people?

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-are-people-moving-florid....

Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs

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Post by albrewer »

mp05 wrote: post #22

I say this with 90% sincerity: I thought this was STEAM now? But with all seriousness... I went to university out of high school in 2005 to get a mech engineering degree but never finished because I liked to party too hard and web dev was easy and paid better than most people I knew with entry-level engineering jobs. Flash forward to now as a non-trad student and I'm in my 400-level coursework. It's all easier than i…

> It wasn't like that ~20 years ago.

I've found that learning entirely new fields of study to be easier as I get older (although I'm "only" 33); I think going to college straight after high school is a disservice to those of us whose brains developed more slowly than others. Long-term thinking and impulse control are some of the last things to develop.

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Post by legerdemain »

NanoYohaneTSU wrote: post #83

Extremely poor journalism. Very misleading and a misunderstanding of what's actually going on. Example: "The Census Bureau reported in 2021 that a paltry 28% of STEM grads are working in these supposedly in-demand, highly paid and important STEM jobs." It's not 28% of all STEM grads, it's 28% of physical science STEM grads. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/06/does-majoring... I'm going to do a better job t…

  > Extremely poor journalism... some shmuck journo...
This is a guest opinion column by a book author to promote a book. All of these facts are very visibly stated on the page, including the word OPINION (in all caps at the top of the page), the author's professional bio, and the title of the book being promoted.
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