Earlier quoted context omitted.
SDR == sales development rep: inbound sales BDR == business development rep: outbound sales
The jobs that AI will automate away?
[deleted]
Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
31–40 of 155 posts
Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
#32> The Census Bureau reported in 2021 that a paltry 28% of STEM grads are working in these supposedly in-demand, highly paid and important STEM jobs. These include diverse sectors such as pharmaceuticals, chemicals and energy, but about half of STEM jobs are in computers, and tech firms typically complain the loudest of STEM shortages. I’ve long suspected that the whole “STEM” education movement is a way for big tech…
I had this experience. Got a degree in physics and heard throughout my time about how awful this STEM shortage was. Went to graduate and couldn't get a job in my field at all (granted, I don't think I knew how to market myself nor was I well educated on how to do so). Ended up working towards a CS degree instead and getting a job in that field. All of my friend group in high school ended up with a diverse range of STEM degrees, but every one of us ended up in some sort of software work in the end.
Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
#33> The Census Bureau reported in 2021 that a paltry 28% of STEM grads are working in these supposedly in-demand, highly paid and important STEM jobs. These include diverse sectors such as pharmaceuticals, chemicals and energy, but about half of STEM jobs are in computers, and tech firms typically complain the loudest of STEM shortages. I’ve long suspected that the whole “STEM” education movement is a way for big tech…
I must be really lucky. I work at a smaller engineering company, working for engineering clients, making software that analyses engineering data, and I get to use the languages and tools I want. I must be a unicorn at this point given how miserable most programmers seem to be.
Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
#34Some of the way this is being presented makes it seem like "bad for the workers" findings, "don't study STEM after all" but this is more about "is this the best way to employ people with STEM degrees", with a central complaint being something along the lines of "innovative IC STEM work is underpaid compared to neighboring business/management-ish fields that capture a lot of graduates" > Many able STEM grads bolt for…
I fail to see how being a software developer in a financial sector or in healthcare is not a STEM career?
Equally, having many STEM professionals move to management doesn't mean that a STEM degree is oversold. There are a lot of STEM management positions where a STEM education and industrial experience are a mandatory job requirement.
Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
CS grads are the most likely to work in their field post-graduation. It's the other majors bringing STEM down, like biology.
> CS grads are the most likely to work in their field post-graduation. It's the other majors bringing STEM down, like biology. Source? (Not challenging you. Curious to see how wide the range is across majors.)
Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
#36> The Census Bureau reported in 2021 that a paltry 28% of STEM grads are working in these supposedly in-demand, highly paid and important STEM jobs. These include diverse sectors such as pharmaceuticals, chemicals and energy, but about half of STEM jobs are in computers, and tech firms typically complain the loudest of STEM shortages. I’ve long suspected that the whole “STEM” education movement is a way for big tech…
> STEM reality: we got you to confuse an ad for a search result 0.5% more often.
It wasn't that bad when we ended up working for large banks, but a lot of we are asked to do these days is plain evil and a disservice to humanity.
Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
#37I say this with 90% sincerity: I thought this was STEAM now? But with all seriousness... I went to university out of high school in 2005 to get a mech engineering degree but never finished because I liked to party too hard and web dev was easy and paid better than most people I knew with entry-level engineering jobs. Flash forward to now as a non-trad student and I'm in my 400-level coursework. It's all easier than i…
So you think the classes are much easier? Might it be related to your life experience and focus you have now? Or are there things that simply aren't are rigorous as it used to be?
Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
#38> The Census Bureau reported in 2021 that a paltry 28% of STEM grads are working in these supposedly in-demand, highly paid and important STEM jobs. These include diverse sectors such as pharmaceuticals, chemicals and energy, but about half of STEM jobs are in computers, and tech firms typically complain the loudest of STEM shortages. I’ve long suspected that the whole “STEM” education movement is a way for big tech…
>STEM reality: we got you to confuse an ad for a search result 0.5% more often. That couldn't be more false. The vast majority of STEM jobs do not pushing ads to people., only FAANGS and such which are a minority of the total STEM jobs.
source? (I am challenging you :) ).
The quote "The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads" is a fairly robust heuristic for determing what skillsets are valued today by Big Tech. I'm sure there are exceptions (there always are to every heuristic), but overall, probably a fair assumption.
Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
#39Some of the way this is being presented makes it seem like "bad for the workers" findings, "don't study STEM after all" but this is more about "is this the best way to employ people with STEM degrees", with a central complaint being something along the lines of "innovative IC STEM work is underpaid compared to neighboring business/management-ish fields that capture a lot of graduates" > Many able STEM grads bolt for…
Also "Why is the best path to a lot of non-STEM jobs to get an unrelated STEM degree, why don't jobs the primary duties of which are well covered by liberal arts (reading, writing, interpersonal communication) hire for liberal arts degrees?"
Re: Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
CS grads are the most likely to work in their field post-graduation. It's the other majors bringing STEM down, like biology.
Big surprise, the jobs that pay more attract more people than the jobs that pay less. My partner has a bio undergrad degree, she works in a field having nothing to do with it because she didn’t want to pursue masters/phd.
I worked with a guy in a data center who had a degree in geology. Computers paid better I guess, so he transitioned over.