Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: Shift in the job market here to stay?

news.ycombinator.com

21–30 of 30 posts

Re: Ask HN: Shift in the job market here to stay?

#21

There has always been cycles of recession and growth. It is a fundamental nature of things. It is silly to assume anything is there to stay. The only constant thing in the universe is change.

cycles were always there, just now it seems like the intervals are getting shorter and shorter...

Re: Ask HN: Shift in the job market here to stay?

#23

There are at least three active threads on this subject right now. I too had 15 years experience with lots of open source history. My solution to this problem was to change career. If you are already vastly superior to your peers in your capabilities and solution delivery then skilling up will only make you more incompatible to the average developer employers expect to hire. There are some hard realities you need to…

10+yoe, thinking about moving on to greener pastures very soon as well. could you share what career you pivoted to?

Data science and enterprise API management

Re: Ask HN: Shift in the job market here to stay?

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It closed a tax rule that allowed companies to write off software salaries as R&D spend, something like now companies have to treat that differently for taxes so they now will owe more taxes. Connecting the dots people are concluding that the tax rule change means companies are doing less hiring. Interest rates are a larger factor in my mind and it takes much longer for increases to them to have an impact on the econ…

If companies are doing less hiring, how does it change response rates? My naive assumption says that they would post less jobs, sure, but why specifically response rates? I think you're making an argument for "there is change in hiring behaviors," but that's a much weaker argument than "this is how it affects response rates."

More candidates since there are fewer openings.

Re: Ask HN: Shift in the job market here to stay?

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If companies are doing less hiring, how does it change response rates? My naive assumption says that they would post less jobs, sure, but why specifically response rates? I think you're making an argument for "there is change in hiring behaviors," but that's a much weaker argument than "this is how it affects response rates."

More candidates since there are fewer openings.

oh, duh! thank you for walking me through the steps.

Re: Ask HN: Shift in the job market here to stay?

#27

Section 174 is the feedback loop that will eventually wipe out a lot of the strategic advantages in the US tech industry--it'll take a bit since these levers are often controlling very slowly changing stocks, but it's ultimately a disastrous update. People should be screaming about it from the rooftops. Not only will it dissuade people from starting companies, but it'll drive companies that could've otherwise been bo…

Sounds like the rich will get richer...

Re: Ask HN: Shift in the job market here to stay?

#28
post #15
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, TikTok and ChatGPT came up extremely quickly. BeReal grew rapidly. People can and still do build disruptive software.

This was before the hike in interest rates though, wasn't it?

I don't think that prevents people from bootstrapping a great product

Re: Ask HN: Shift in the job market here to stay?

#29
It's a numbers game. Apply to everything. Lower your standards. I think it's here to stay and will only get worse as the offshoring continues.

Saying your 15 years and published books seem slide maybe you need to seek out a lower paying position. Companies seem to be avoiding more expensive hires right now.

Re: Ask HN: Shift in the job market here to stay?

#30

There are at least three active threads on this subject right now. I too had 15 years experience with lots of open source history. My solution to this problem was to change career. If you are already vastly superior to your peers in your capabilities and solution delivery then skilling up will only make you more incompatible to the average developer employers expect to hire. There are some hard realities you need to…

> To be an excellent developer you need to score extremely high in both agreeability and conscientious so that you are really good with the details and willing to go above and beyond to build a more durable product. To be a good leader you need to push that agreeability way down so that you build a lust for confrontation with high empathy. Good leaders really tear into people to discover why they are failing to perform and how to redeem or remove them. Most developers are exceptionally bad at this.

Wow, this articulates exactly the issue I've had trying to move into leadership positions. Thank you for putting it into words

Post reply on HN