They tend to all become BDRs or Consultants from my circles. Academia-Research trauma is tough too
BDR?
SDR == sales development rep: inbound sales
BDR == business development rep: outbound sales
Most STEM grads don't work in STEM jobs
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#13STEM students can't apply for internships because they are on site and will not pay for relocation, will not pay for housing, and rent leases rarely will do short durations. Most grads get those because their family+friends had the resources to help them be successfull. Living in a large city with stem jobs and having an extra room. As housing capital is squeezed so is the nation. The trend is not improving, many oth…
aye - we've made the sciences into a bit of a hobby career, or a short career for those who want to pursue passion project for a few years.
Of my physics undergrad, around 1/10th were independently wealthy - guess who is still working in physics. The rest either did it for a few years, or got the picture over the course of the undergrad.
A 40k/year job is great if you are getting an additional ~120k in cash from existing investments at 22.
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#14Some of the way this is being presented makes it seem like "bad for the workers" findings, "don't study STEM after all" but this is more about "is this the best way to employ people with STEM degrees", with a central complaint being something along the lines of "innovative IC STEM work is underpaid compared to neighboring business/management-ish fields that capture a lot of graduates"
> Many able STEM grads bolt for better-paying careers, especially in business, finance, management and medicine (government programs focused on STEM exclude medical practitioners and are not designed to increase those numbers). Some do find high salaries in STEM jobs, many right out of college, especially in hot fields such as AI. But STEM grads even in the most dynamic sectors, including computer science and engineering, see their salary advantage fade over time, increasing the odds that they’ll leave for greener pastures.
> Employers also incentivize moves from technical work to management with higher salaries at their own firms, yet many bemoan a shortage of technical STEM workers, not managers.
This article is not so much anti-education as anti-management/investor-class-incentivization.
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#15> The Census Bureau reported in 2021 that a paltry 28% of STEM grads are working in these supposedly in-demand, highly paid and important STEM jobs. These include diverse sectors such as pharmaceuticals, chemicals and energy, but about half of STEM jobs are in computers, and tech firms typically complain the loudest of STEM shortages. I’ve long suspected that the whole “STEM” education movement is a way for big tech…
CS grads are the most likely to work in their field post-graduation. It's the other majors bringing STEM down, like biology.
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The author is a professor at UC San Diego.
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#17STEM students can't apply for internships because they are on site and will not pay for relocation, will not pay for housing, and rent leases rarely will do short durations. Most grads get those because their family+friends had the resources to help them be successfull. Living in a large city with stem jobs and having an extra room. As housing capital is squeezed so is the nation. The trend is not improving, many oth…
Is Microsoft not considered STEM? They have always had a lot of interns, and the interships are paid lavishly.
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#18> The Census Bureau reported in 2021 that a paltry 28% of STEM grads are working in these supposedly in-demand, highly paid and important STEM jobs. These include diverse sectors such as pharmaceuticals, chemicals and energy, but about half of STEM jobs are in computers, and tech firms typically complain the loudest of STEM shortages. I’ve long suspected that the whole “STEM” education movement is a way for big tech…
CS grads are the most likely to work in their field post-graduation. It's the other majors bringing STEM down, like biology.
> CS grads are the most likely to work in their field post-graduation. It's the other majors bringing STEM down, like biology.
Source? (Not challenging you. Curious to see how wide the range is across majors.)
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#19> The Census Bureau reported in 2021 that a paltry 28% of STEM grads are working in these supposedly in-demand, highly paid and important STEM jobs. These include diverse sectors such as pharmaceuticals, chemicals and energy, but about half of STEM jobs are in computers, and tech firms typically complain the loudest of STEM shortages. I’ve long suspected that the whole “STEM” education movement is a way for big tech…
CS grads are the most likely to work in their field post-graduation. It's the other majors bringing STEM down, like biology.
Big surprise, the jobs that pay more attract more people than the jobs that pay less. My partner has a bio undergrad degree, she works in a field having nothing to do with it because she didn’t want to pursue masters/phd.