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What SoundCloud created can never die

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Re: What SoundCloud created can never die

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Post by ryandrake »

_factor wrote: post #48
ryandrake wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trying not to put words in OP's mouth, but I definitely know people in real life with this attitude, who also get weirdly bristled by innocent mentioning of things like "sexualities" in businesses' PR/positioning pieces. If I were to open a cafe and mentioned somewhere in my Grand Opening PR that the cafe is "inclusive to all genders and races," I know real acquaintances who would absolutely complain to me that my bu…

It’s almost as if mentioning it, you’re implying that the majority of businesses close to you are not inclusive. If this is the case, go ahead and mention it to stand out. Otherwise you’re just trying to get brownie points in how cool and progressive you are while solving your imagined problem.

I don't get how it's any different than hanging a big sign outside that says "We love to serve truckers and bikers!" It's just marketing/positioning. What makes one "brownie points" and the other not?

Re: What SoundCloud created can never die

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Post by underlipton »

_factor wrote: post #48
ryandrake wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trying not to put words in OP's mouth, but I definitely know people in real life with this attitude, who also get weirdly bristled by innocent mentioning of things like "sexualities" in businesses' PR/positioning pieces. If I were to open a cafe and mentioned somewhere in my Grand Opening PR that the cafe is "inclusive to all genders and races," I know real acquaintances who would absolutely complain to me that my bu…

It’s almost as if mentioning it, you’re implying that the majority of businesses close to you are not inclusive. If this is the case, go ahead and mention it to stand out. Otherwise you’re just trying to get brownie points in how cool and progressive you are while solving your imagined problem.

Do we apply the same standard to brands that position themselves as patriotic? If not, it seems that the positioning is less of an issue to certain people than the position.

Re: What SoundCloud created can never die

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Post by adriand »

mjr00 wrote: post #41
adriand wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their platform is just so badly designed once you do pay them as a musician. I signed up for an electronic project I was working on and I found the entire thing incredibly confusing. The design, the naming of things, the way some things connected with other things and not others, it all felt like a mishmash. The last straw for me was when I couldn’t master a track. The plan included IIRC three masters per month. Afte…

The fact that they even have an AI mastering service--which, to be blunt, is an exploitative scam to bilk hobbyist/newbie musicians out of their money--just shows how much shit they've been throwing at the wall, hoping it sticks. Mastering services, distribution services (SoundCloud for Artists, which lets you also post on Spotify), making some tracks eligible for streaming payouts, Next vs Next Pro vs Go vs Go+ vs..…

Yes, this is exactly what I am talking about! It's all feels very random. And it's all such a series of missed opportunities because they still have so much credibility in the hobbyist, underground and "urban" music scenes... The front-end is another example, the UI has barely changed in years, and yet, there are so many opportunities for improvement there too.

Re: What SoundCloud created can never die

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Post by autoexec »

underlipton wrote: post #11

I think that there's a good case to be made that, when these kinds of companies turn out to be unprofitable, they should be spun into a semi-public service like USPS (as its own thing, not under any existing institution). Much like mail delivery, there's not much room for innovation on the basic service of, "Provide interface and space to upload music, provide interface to enjoy music." If whoever buys SC has to chan…

This is something that libraries might be in a good position to offer. They're increasingly pushing people to use private third parties for anything digital (and putting the public at risk of being tracked and advertised to in the process) but I'd love to see them doing more hosting of online services themselves.

Re: What SoundCloud created can never die

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Post by redwood »

herunan wrote: post #7

SoundCloud is still my most used music platform. If you like electronic music, it’s second to none. I like the fact that you can have 1-2h sets where you can comment reactions or ID different songs at specific timestamps. I also like to interact with different small artists there and follow their growth in the industry. I would message them tracks that I like and they would send me private links to early versions of…

Same. Love it
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