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OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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I can guarantee you what Altman will say, are you ready ? We think it’s important the US stays ahead of China and Russia and we believe the benefits will outpace the risks. Ultimately this move will benefit humanity Maybe he’s right, maybe if everyone has killer robots, no he will bother starting war? Who knows? Nobody

Obviously Humanity == USA

Proven time and time again.

The Good Guys(TM)

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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OpenAI had/has 57 Chinese talent [1], they're probably getting the boot if OpenAI picks up Pentagon contracts. https://macropolo2.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

how did you even acquire this graph?

https://macropolo.org/chinese-talent-generative-ai/?rp=m

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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He’s talking about the US military. Why would they be in Ukraine or Israel?

Neither Ukraine nor Israel have reached this hypothetical technological era in which a draft is not required, and those facts are inescapable to any American in those countries observing it. One reason the US military doesn't need a draft is because its proxy forces which are supplied by US equipment do have a military draft. This is not a complex argument nor are there any facts which are not mutually agreed upon by…

>Neither Ukraine nor Israel have reached this hypothetical technological era in which a draft is not required,

They have worse equipment and a much smaller professional army.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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OpenAI had/has 57 Chinese talent [1], they're probably getting the boot if OpenAI picks up Pentagon contracts. https://macropolo2.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

For dual-use tech, its relatively common to have a small "government" division alongside the much larger commercial division. If the only difference for government is fine tuning data/DoD servers - it shouldn't cost OpenAI much to support.

People are escalating AI to strategic/end of world tier of dual use tech. Questionable if it will be treated the same way. OpenAI is not lockheed, but question is how much they value Pentagon contracts or really gov connections especially with all the regulation talk.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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OpenAI had/has 57 Chinese talent [1], they're probably getting the boot if OpenAI picks up Pentagon contracts. https://macropolo2.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

That would be a great loss of talent. I wish we could make it much easier for those top scientists to become American citizens. Why assume they have loyalty to the CCP? They’re in California, presumably they like hot dogs, monster trucks, and bikinis.

>Why assume they have loyalty to the CCP

Because that's American NatSec for you. They rather train a white kid from Iowa to read Chinese poorly and do even worse analysis than risk giving advantage to adversaries. The domestic politics of latter is more unforgiving. Also see China Initiative persecuting PRC scholars. Pentagon contracts will come with strings attached, hidden or otherwise.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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We only directly applied napalm to the skin of a couple thousand children, what are those stinky hippies still whining about? They saw the USS Maddox get attacked twice while performing peaceful maneuvers in our own backyard, the Gulf of Tonkin! We only dropped 21,000,000 gallons of Agent Orange, it hardly causes birth defects any more, only a few hundred writhing harlequin babies a year at this point, what exactly i…

Take it up with Nixon. And the fuckers who voted for him who had no problem with the above. The military is a gun. It shoots what the President wants dead. In that case, it was Cambodia. You really don’t want a USA where the military decides it doesn’t want to listen to civilian government anymore.

The notion that the military is subordinate to The Will of The People is interesting, or maybe I misinterpreted you.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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> It's maybe also that US population tends to underestimate how other people are smart (US-centrism really does exist). They do. > Chinese people are very smart, and there is technically more of them, so I am not surprised that they are releasing amazing open models. They also have an educational system that wastes less talent and have fewer - if any - roadblocks to the will of the party bosses. In a war a dictatorsh…

The biggest problem won’t be AGI. It will be the thousands of shitty AI and ML models which predict things with 99.9% accuracy, meaning people (read judges etc) assume it’s 100% accurate regardless of how often it gets used. Look at the Postmaster General scandal in the UK. Now imagine that in all systems, because AI in inherently statistical in nature.

Which human is 99.9% accurate most of the time? What's the difference here?

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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> peace we enjoy today Perhaps you didn't read the news in the past two years..

Perhaps you didn't read the part of the parent post that says "relative to the kind of large scale total international wars that preceded [the a-bomb's] invention." I don't think we young Western men realise how good we've had it since 1945, particularly those of us from countries not involved in Vietnam.

Asian men didn't have it good. The Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian, still have unexploded USA bombs on their territories. African and South American men didn't either.

It seems nuclear weapons only allowed one side of the world to bully the rest.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Ok so a few weeks ago, virtually every OpenAi employee signed a letter saying “reinstate Altman or I quit”. Is any OpenAi employee wanting to sign a “don’t use OpenAi for war or I quit”? Or was everyone in on betraying all OpenAi’s founding principles from the start?

Yes, they were mostly driven by money and ego.

i mean, openai is pretty much microsoft's puppet.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

#440

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Perhaps you didn't read the part of the parent post that says "relative to the kind of large scale total international wars that preceded [the a-bomb's] invention." I don't think we young Western men realise how good we've had it since 1945, particularly those of us from countries not involved in Vietnam.

Asian men didn't have it good. The Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian, still have unexploded USA bombs on their territories. African and South American men didn't either. It seems nuclear weapons only allowed one side of the world to bully the rest.

First your point was about Ukraine, now you're on US atrocities Latin America and SE Asia. Yeah, the US did that. I don't think they needed nuclear weapons to do it. I don't know what point you're trying to make.
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