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OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Sure. I believe the atomic bombs have primarily led to the long peace we enjoy today, relative to the kind of large scale total international wars that preceded their invention. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Peace

> peace we enjoy today Perhaps you didn't read the news in the past two years..

Perhaps you didn't read the part of the parent post that says "relative to the kind of large scale total international wars that preceded [the a-bomb's] invention."

I don't think we young Western men realise how good we've had it since 1945, particularly those of us from countries not involved in Vietnam.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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That country was not a "thriving liberal democracy". Unless you count nazi militias as democratic and liberal nowadays. If it werent for the specific nationality the neonazis were shooting at, the water connected alliance would bomb them for being nazis instead.

I was talking about Taiwan. I honestly have no idea to what you’re alluding.

LOL. I avoided downvoting the OP because it did not mention any countries, and could easily be applied to any of the great powers, including the U.S. So it stands as a neutral argument for proliferation (ignoring the later clarification).

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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> Russia could certainly cause severe economic damage and kill many people, sure. But find me one credible expert who, given what we know now, supports your "hundreds of millions" claim. Since mid-2023, everyone from think-tanks like the German Council on Foreign Relations to chiefs of defense of Europe have been ringing an alarm bell over Putin's ambitions beyond Ukraine. The population of Germany and Poland alone p…

> The population of Germany and Poland alone pushes the number of people directly at risk of Russian aggression over 100 million. You think there's a serious risk of a Russian tank column making it to Frankfurt? Lol. Lmao even. > As of 2024, nobody takes that seriously anymore. Russians too have recognized ineffectiveness of that narrative and have stopped pushing it. If no-one takes it seriously that's because no-on…

> You think there's a serious risk of a Russian tank column making it to Frankfurt? Lol. Lmao even.

Tank column? I don't know. But Russia may very well attack the Suwalki gap and hit German cities with long-range missiles to terrorize Germans into dropping support for Poland and Lithuania, while threatening that any German response will unleash nuclear armageddon, as they are currently trying to break the morale in Ukraine. The distance from Suwalki gap to Frankfurt is roughly the same as the distance between active frontline in Ukraine and Lviv (~1000 km), the city that had to enter 2024 under Russian missile attacks. As someone put it succinctly, Russia is shooting missiles at cities 10 Belgiums away from the frontline - with no intention of stopping anytime soon.

> If no-one takes it seriously that's because no-one expects western countries to be principled any more.

The human rights situation in Russia has deteriorated so much in the past few years that their complaints towards the EU can only be taken as a joke. Russian diplomats risk getting laughed out of the room (like Lavrov already experienced) if they raise the issue. Russia has left the European Convention on Human Rights, not to mention "lesser" things like decriminalizing wifebeating, destroying the last remnants of freedom of speech and free expression, turning blind eye to anti-gay pogroms taking place in southern part of the country, systematically persecuting Russian human rights activists, and carrying out ethnic cleansing by conscripting and sending ethnic minorities to die as cannon fodder in pointless "meat attacks" in Ukraine.

Russia is approaching North Korea at a fast pace. Ironically, in the entire world, Russia is one of the worst places to be in as a Russian - which is why all the top dogs in Russia have their children, wives and mistresses living in safety of the "degenerate" west.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Who, in the US, has more training data than the NSA?

Not saying it’s right, but I could imagine the temptation to get effectively unlimited data into an LLM is too much to resist. Especially given the near certainty that content owners have a strong case for protecting their content from free use.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Ok so a few weeks ago, virtually every OpenAi employee signed a letter saying “reinstate Altman or I quit”. Is any OpenAi employee wanting to sign a “don’t use OpenAi for war or I quit”? Or was everyone in on betraying all OpenAi’s founding principles from the start?

Yes, they were mostly driven by money and ego.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Not Australia, New Zealand, or South Africa!

Well England did nuke Australia. But we’re friends so thats OK. If we set that aside as an aberration, then yes your right.

No harm in a little nuclear explosion between friends.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Utterly predictable. AI will be weaponized and anybody working on it is going to have to live with that knowledge. Consider yourselves part of the MIC from now on, no more bs about doing this for the betterment of humanity. And to add to that: once any party figures out how to do this it is a matter of time before the rest does too, there is no such thing as a secret. The atomic bomb leaked and so will the recipe for…

The perfect career for an accelerationist.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Sure, so did Sam Bankman-Fried haha.

There’s an argument that without SBF stealing all that money and giving it to the DNC we’d have a president Trump today and the Russian army would be halfway through Germany.

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Everyone is jumping to conclusions. The DoD is huge and does a lot of boring things. There is a very good chance this won’t be useful for anything physical weapon related, especially when you consider their offerings.

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Good point. I’d be careful even writing that, because that same potentially future president might do some Xi Jinping on you with the help of OpenAI - some psychological profiling to find the people who are a threat to his mental model. You just never know… but if he could do that, you can be damn sure he would. Which means if it’s not him that does it, it is just a matter of time before the next reality TV, possibly…

He was elected in 2016 thanks to such online psychological profiling tools (CA). The PATRIOT act will make it unstoppable. You all have already put enough online to deserve to be purged (murdered) in the eyes of some 2025 Cultural Revolutionary Red Guards.

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