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OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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It's disingenuous to ignore the effect the aggression of the cold war and its aftermath had on the current Russian situation. With Taiwan, it's a delicate situation and I'm not familiar enough with it to comment on it. But I notice you conveniently left out all the times the US just did interventionism because it was convenient. Iraq? Most recently Venezuela? If we go back long enough, how about literally all of Sout…

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Ok? What's so bad about speaking Russian? English isn't my first language, I have no attachment to it. If Russian had become the lingua franca of the world I'd have learned that instead.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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The second OpenAI stopped being a not for profit it opened itself up to the highest bidder namely the military industrial complex ... this danger motivated it's corporate structure which explicitly detailed it did not wish to be a pawn of big corporations so sad

It just shows the ‘not for profit’ was just a ploy to sound cool. Really, it should have been ‘only for profit’.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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> The disdain that seems to infest so many when it comes to working with our national defense organizations is both annoying and bewilderingly naive and that's even when we take into consideration all of the bad things that happen. I think yor phrase "our national defense organizations" summarizes the counterargument: a lot of readers/commenters on HN live in other countries.

"10 out of 10 dictators disapprove of the free world improving their defense capabilities!"

Not sure who the US was defending when it participated in the Yemeni genocide, but it sure as hell wasn't me.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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I personally welcome cooperation with the Pentagon for OpenAI and other American companies. The disdain that seems to infest so many when it comes to working with our national defense organizations is both annoying and bewilderingly naive and that's even when we take into consideration all of the bad things that happen. Strengthening partnerships with our government certainly doesn't make me mistrust OpenAI.

Yeah I understand skepticism over the USE of our military, but being categorically against our military having expanded military capabilities is just intentionally weakening ourselves. It's like saying our soldiers in Iraq shouldn't have had modern rifles because the invasion of Iraq was wrong. I can only surmise that Silicon Valley has a sizeable contingent raised by hippie Vietnam protestors that produced a generat…

We only directly applied napalm to the skin of a couple thousand children, what are those stinky hippies still whining about? They saw the USS Maddox get attacked twice while performing peaceful maneuvers in our own backyard, the Gulf of Tonkin! We only dropped 21,000,000 gallons of Agent Orange, it hardly causes birth defects any more, only a few hundred writhing harlequin babies a year at this point, what exactly is the fucking problem?!

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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>"OpenAI is working with the Pentagon on software projects, including ones related to cybersecurity, the company said Tuesday,..."

Can someone say how either of OpenAI's products - GPT and DALLE can be applied to cybersecurity? Or does OpenAI simply have enough extra employee and research headcount when Pentagon money comes calling?

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Yeah I understand skepticism over the USE of our military, but being categorically against our military having expanded military capabilities is just intentionally weakening ourselves. It's like saying our soldiers in Iraq shouldn't have had modern rifles because the invasion of Iraq was wrong. I can only surmise that Silicon Valley has a sizeable contingent raised by hippie Vietnam protestors that produced a generat…

Well, history is certainly written by the victors eh? The military is a tool used to maintain the empire of an unsustainable culture of consumption. This military is KILLING people in Yemen (a country with which the US is NOT at war) because they are delaying shipments of stuff. Stuff getting from a to b on time and for cheap is worth more than human life. Go live as a civilian in a country that our military has deci…

Reminder that the US drone strike a wedding in Yemen back in 2013, https://www.hrw.org/report/2014/02/19/wedding-became-funeral...

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Well, history is certainly written by the victors eh? The military is a tool used to maintain the empire of an unsustainable culture of consumption. This military is KILLING people in Yemen (a country with which the US is NOT at war) because they are delaying shipments of stuff. Stuff getting from a to b on time and for cheap is worth more than human life. Go live as a civilian in a country that our military has deci…

Yep, this is the naive rhetoric the GP was talking about. It’s totally okay for Houthis to lob missiles at American boats with American citizens on it and doing anything but letting them do so is “imperialism.”

Why are they attacking the boats, and what are their conditions for stopping?

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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I personally welcome cooperation with the Pentagon for OpenAI and other American companies. The disdain that seems to infest so many when it comes to working with our national defense organizations is both annoying and bewilderingly naive and that's even when we take into consideration all of the bad things that happen. Strengthening partnerships with our government certainly doesn't make me mistrust OpenAI.

The US has a fascist running for president right now(who was previously elected!). There is every reason to be worried about new tech adoption by the US military.

Good point. I’d be careful even writing that, because that same potentially future president might do some Xi Jinping on you with the help of OpenAI - some psychological profiling to find the people who are a threat to his mental model. You just never know… but if he could do that, you can be damn sure he would. Which means if it’s not him that does it, it is just a matter of time before the next reality TV, possibly Russian planted president does it.

The world is gearing up for WWIII, I can smell it in the air. Maybe GPT5 has figured out there’s some serious dosh to be made!

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