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South Korea launches digital nomad visa to boost remote work options in 2024
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Re: South Korea launches digital nomad visa to boost remote work options in 2024
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's an asymmetric relationship. The nomad doesn't care if SK runs this program. But SK does care if people don't come. Unfortunately, they don't particularly care. The whole driver behind this program is optics. Both to domestic voters "Look at how global and modern the current government is and how much we're doing", as well as to international headline-readers "Look at how progressive Korea is".
Ah, I see. In that case, I suppose no one really cares where it goes. S Korea's loss, in my opinion. They're the ones whose population will shrink by half every half-century from now.
> They're the ones whose population will shrink by half every half-century from now.
How is that a loss?
I think people are realising that the 'grow your way to success' model doesn't work for countries any more, unless you're the US, which is in a fairly unique position simply due to having a geography that no other country shares.
Re: South Korea launches digital nomad visa to boost remote work options in 2024
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
> just quietly work while on 30-90 day visa-free (...) tourist entry dude.
Generally restrictions are against working for a local company, since that would be a workaround of getting the right visa for you. I think most tourist entries are ok with working for a company abroad, especially if some jobs might require to step-in while on vacation.
There should be footnotes in forms that tourist visa works for business trips. It's often ok in that sense, not as in throwing in the straw hat and Hawaiian shirt to trash can just past the border control is ok or not
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know how the whole digital nomad model works, but I'm guessing that it's kind of a hassle to have to spend money every 30-90 days to cross out of the country and back in. Plus, some countries have policies to counteract this "infinite visa glitch" and can punish people for doing this.
Most digital nomads I know (including myself) do not go back to the same country at the end of their 30-90 days though. They hop to another country or do a stop at home for a while to do anything they may need to at home before heading somewhere else. I regularly stay somewhere for 90ish days, then go home for a while to do anything I need to back home days and then somewhere else. This is also why a digital nomad vi…
I'm curious - since the individual stops are so relatively short, how do you manage to stay on top of it all? How do you consistently find short-term housing every 30-90 days at a reasonable price?
This model sounds pretty appealing to me as something to consider doing in the future, but I'm not sure on just how much hassle this would introduce.
Re: South Korea launches digital nomad visa to boost remote work options in 2024
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, I see. In that case, I suppose no one really cares where it goes. S Korea's loss, in my opinion. They're the ones whose population will shrink by half every half-century from now.
> They're the ones whose population will shrink by half every half-century from now. How is that a loss? I think people are realising that the 'grow your way to success' model doesn't work for countries any more, unless you're the US, which is in a fairly unique position simply due to having a geography that no other country shares.
The immediate problems are likely to be that they will lose the ability to sustain welfare for their non-productive population (the elderly, children, disabled, etc.). The long-term problems are likely to be that they will fail to protect their borders eventually since they can't field a sufficiently large fighting force.
But perhaps they have another path. I guess it's good to have someone else run that experiment. We can observe and duplicate or avoid.
Re: South Korea launches digital nomad visa to boost remote work options in 2024
#46My memory may be failing, last time (15 years ish? ) I looked at living / staying in Korea most places asked for a full years rent up front, then additional rent each month. You are supposed to get it back at the end of the lease. It would be trivial for a land lord to abuse a foreigner in this circumstance on the VISA, its not like you can stay around after the end of your lease to take them to court to recoup your…
That is a very specific legal arrangement, which I understand is getting rarer and rarer these days.
Re: South Korea launches digital nomad visa to boost remote work options in 2024
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most digital nomads I know (including myself) do not go back to the same country at the end of their 30-90 days though. They hop to another country or do a stop at home for a while to do anything they may need to at home before heading somewhere else. I regularly stay somewhere for 90ish days, then go home for a while to do anything I need to back home days and then somewhere else. This is also why a digital nomad vi…
I'm curious - since the individual stops are so relatively short, how do you manage to stay on top of it all? How do you consistently find short-term housing every 30-90 days at a reasonable price? This model sounds pretty appealing to me as something to consider doing in the future, but I'm not sure on just how much hassle this would introduce.
> at a reasonable price
this is the crux; what is reasonable for a tech worker can be a whole paycheck for someone in the community they are moving to
> how much hassle this would introduce
this is controversial; you are no doubt injecting capital into the local economy, but what are the ultimate consequences?
nyc has a saying: no such thing as a free lunch (the economics always balance out in the end, even if you can't see the scales working)
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most digital nomads I know (including myself) do not go back to the same country at the end of their 30-90 days though. They hop to another country or do a stop at home for a while to do anything they may need to at home before heading somewhere else. I regularly stay somewhere for 90ish days, then go home for a while to do anything I need to back home days and then somewhere else. This is also why a digital nomad vi…
I'm curious - since the individual stops are so relatively short, how do you manage to stay on top of it all? How do you consistently find short-term housing every 30-90 days at a reasonable price? This model sounds pretty appealing to me as something to consider doing in the future, but I'm not sure on just how much hassle this would introduce.
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Re: South Korea launches digital nomad visa to boost remote work options in 2024
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Generally restrictions are against working for a local company, since that would be a workaround of getting the right visa for you. I think most tourist entries are ok with working for a company abroad, especially if some jobs might require to step-in while on vacation.
There should be footnotes in forms that tourist visa works for business trips. It's often ok in that sense, not as in throwing in the straw hat and Hawaiian shirt to trash can just past the border control is ok or not
I'd rather ignore it since tourist visas are short. The alternative is to add rules to stress some people out, and have others willingly ignore them as it gets you into the idiotic space of having a rule that's not really enforced or worse, not even enforceable in a reasonable way.