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OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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I sure hope so, Russia has 100% been doing it, with multiple documented „botfarms” (more like fake identity verification farms)

Russia doesn't need fancy "AI" to do this. Human operators and a few well-designed scripts make botting very easy.

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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> developing weapons "To improve our response to emerging threats, our SmartMissiles™ now use OpenAI for fire/don't-fire decisions instead of a human operator."

Getting a dejavu of a couple SF books where a party needed to obtain totally-not-weapons, sometimes even including talking an AI into building them (with sometimes the AI even being on it basically, just not being able to acknowledge it due to outside setup filters even!). Laser flashlights and rapid rescue shuttles come to mind. ;-)

Makes me think of the sentient hell-class weapons in the Revelation Space series that (if I recall correctly) had to be goaded and convinced into firing

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Utterly predictable. AI will be weaponized and anybody working on it is going to have to live with that knowledge. Consider yourselves part of the MIC from now on, no more bs about doing this for the betterment of humanity.

And to add to that: once any party figures out how to do this it is a matter of time before the rest does too, there is no such thing as a secret. The atomic bomb leaked and so will the recipe for AGI. So not only are you working for the MIC of your own country you are also enabling your future enemies.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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I don’t think that opposite argument works given the current geopolitical situation which has nothing to do with the US being aggressive. Russia would have very likely completed its conquest of Ukraine by now and moved on to the Baltic states (NATO relies on US military spending to compensate for lack of spending of other NATO members). Taiwan would belong to China yesterday, along with the rest of the Indo-Pacific.

It's disingenuous to ignore the effect the aggression of the cold war and its aftermath had on the current Russian situation. With Taiwan, it's a delicate situation and I'm not familiar enough with it to comment on it. But I notice you conveniently left out all the times the US just did interventionism because it was convenient. Iraq? Most recently Venezuela? If we go back long enough, how about literally all of Sout…

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Ok so a few weeks ago, virtually every OpenAi employee signed a letter saying “reinstate Altman or I quit”. Is any OpenAi employee wanting to sign a “don’t use OpenAi for war or I quit”? Or was everyone in on betraying all OpenAi’s founding principles from the start?

Reinstating Altman was all about the money, and so is this.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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The USA has a larger military than the next 5 nations combined. The USA is not under threat from anyone. This would still be true if the US military was a tiny fraction of its current size. The USA does, however, use its vast military to attack other countries without provocation, seemingly to protect commercial interests. I don't think it's "childish" to be suspicious of the US Military. I worry about the mentality…

> The USA is not under threat from anyone. That is demonstrably false. In fact, should Texas ever actually secede from the Union they would very quickly find out exactly how much our enemies dislike us. Hard to believe someone actually typed that sentence.

I agree with your headline premise, but ...

> In fact, should Texas ever actually secede from the Union they would very quickly find out exactly how much our enemies dislike us.

Go on...?

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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The US has a fascist running for president right now(who was previously elected!). There is every reason to be worried about new tech adoption by the US military.

Then you will be pleased to learn that the US military takes an oath to the Constitution, not to whoever happens to be the current President. Exactly because the dangers of assholes assuming the Presidency isn't some kind of genius insight that you're the first person to ever consider.

'Insurrection Act'.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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They haven't changed their principles page yet: https://openai.com/safety-standards ``` Minimize harm We will build safety into our AI tools where possible, and work hard to aggressively reduce harms posed by the misuse or abuse of our AI tools. ``` And I think they can still do that. If they corner every big usecase while they are the top ai models - they get to set the standard and define safety for all upcoming ai…

Until someone argues they're not principles, just mere guidelines.
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