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Worth reading just to learn of the existence of "activated cashews" Our enzyme-rich, activated, and dehydrated cashews are a mineral-dense protein. Pure, alkaline water awakens the nuts' dormant properties, increasing digestibility and micronutrient, vitamin, and enzyme count. These raw, activated, bio-available nuts are a low-glycemic source of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids. As well as a product for sale at infowa…

Soaked and dehydrated.

And activated…like charcoal?

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post #87

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Dehydrated cashews are definitely not going to sprout...

No, but soaking is going to break down chemicals like phytic acid that lock up nutrients.

That sounds like a very Huberman-like statement. Is there any literature that shows this not only to be true, but to be effective enough to make even a minute change in your health outcomes?

Regardless, I'm going to continue enjoying my store brand whole cashews and leave Alex's shriveled nuts soaked in pH-balanced super-water to someone else.

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I've been heavily involved in a city council before that was trying to attract stores (especially a grocery store), so I'm pretty familiar with how it works, and this mostly incorrect. In fact, people going out of their way to get the produce elsewhere works against a new store, because the stores see that as cannabilization should they open a new closer location. The decision to open new stores is mostly based on "n…

Dollar stores are the killer here. They can easily undercut regular grocery stores (low selection, low worker count) but they do not have produce sections. So people just give up the produce section to get all the other processed stuff cheaper.

Thankfully our local dollar store has a pretty decent produce section. Dollar General. I'm aware that we have one of the better dollar generals out there. (Hillsboro KS)

By decent I mean decent for a dollar store. They have apples and oranges and cabbage and lettuce etc, no beets or leeks or fresh cilantro.

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Since I just watched Idiocracy last week at a friend's recommendation: The hero encounters vast numbers of people who robotically say about a Gatorade-like product: "It's got electrolytes!" He asks them, "Do you even know what electrolytes are?"

> "Do you even know what electrolytes are?" They're what plants crave.

Brawndo's got electrolytes!

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The anti-authority/anti-expert theme in American politics isn't a left or right phenomenon. There's a fundamental breakdown in institutional trust within American society which is present on both sides, and the similar approaches to wellness are a vivid expression of this.

It's been well-earned. How many iterations of the food pyramid? How many times have we been told that X is okay, only to find out some decades later that X is in fact, not good for us? Flame retardants, can liners. Don't wear masks. Do wear masks. Okay, we lied, but it was for a good reason. This is safe for pregnant women. Then it turns out not to be safe for pregnant women, but they keep prescribing it anyway. Now…

Your comment made me look up Canada's food guide. When I was growing up I remember dairy being heavily pushed but if you go there today, there's no mention of it.

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post #144

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> a concept that assumes that demand follows supply This is wayyyy too black and white. What is cheap and available is what becomes people's diets and historically folks are extremely creative with the stuff that's around. This is pretty much the entire story of culinary history and likely where all your favorite dishes originated. One of the reasons tea was so unbelievably popular in western Europe was because the s…

That's a lot of words to say that fresh foods aren't available close by because people don't want them. They are demanding convenience foods with their dollars, so that is what the vendors provide. Forcing a store into existence by government (or other) proclamation to supply fresh foods won't make people buy them.

That's one read for the situation but that's not really how I meant it. My takeaway is that fresh produce is far too expensive in dollars to have any hope of competing with non-perishables in value. When the price of the food at your local grocery store is dominated by the price of the transportation to get it there low-value foods that either cause loss through expiration and/or require additional work to turn into a meal have no chance when they're the same price as non-perishables and prepared food. So yes people are demanding them with their dollars but that's less of a preference for them and more they would be stupid not to if budget is of any concern.

If all the fresh produce in the grocery store was $0 I bet consumers would choose it overwhelmingly compared to alternatives. So I contend there is a number where fresh produce wins but we're not even close to it. Because you have to save on dollars to make the additional work/risk worth it but right now you don't. And it's one thing to be like "well that's the market for ya" but we already heavily subsidize agriculture it's not that crazy to also subsidize produce at the point of sale both to reduce waste during harvest and to encourage healthier eating.

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It's been well-earned. How many iterations of the food pyramid? How many times have we been told that X is okay, only to find out some decades later that X is in fact, not good for us? Flame retardants, can liners. Don't wear masks. Do wear masks. Okay, we lied, but it was for a good reason. This is safe for pregnant women. Then it turns out not to be safe for pregnant women, but they keep prescribing it anyway. Now…

Your comment made me look up Canada's food guide. When I was growing up I remember dairy being heavily pushed but if you go there today, there's no mention of it.

Canada is more effectively able to push back against corporate interests. most of the time -- O&G still rule the roost

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post #134

- I don't trust big pharma, and prefer alternative medicine. - I will never let my child get vaccinated. - I don't trust the education system, and homeschool my kids. - I feel economically insecure and feel like the establishment has left me behind. - I think the government is lying to us and the Jews are secretly running the world. - I don't think we should be fighting wars all over the world. Tell me, do my politic…

By US standards, right-wing.

By international standards, far right-wing.

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It’s incredibly difficult to call out and correct negative beliefs and behaviours while maintaining a fully positive human relationship. — It just doesn’t seem to scale well.

So you're saying: Not being positive == hate? Thanks for sharing! How about not being 100% positive, while also not dehumanizing, devaluing, and hating? Is it too much to ask to just accept everyone as fully human and not something disgusting, even those we happen to disagree with? It just doesn’t seem to scale well. Please give us a historical example where "letting your hate flow" led to scalable mass changing peop…

> So you're saying: Not being positive == hate?

I didn’t say that, nor mean it.

And just wow - never in my most pessimistic estimation did I imagine that my post would be interpreted as defending “dehumanizing, devaluing and hate”.

Having lived in different cultures, I have experienced that perfectly acceptable wording of criticism of an idea in one culture was interpreted as a personal attack in another culture.

So the same wording of a critique didn’t “scale” across those cultures.

In a smaller scale setting, there’s a much better chance to hit the right tone for the smaller audience, so the criticism doesn’t come across as hurtful.

> Please give us a historical example where "letting your hate flow" led to scalable mass changing people

I have to admit, I have absolutely no idea how you got from my comment to that sentence?

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