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OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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The ostensible application to prevent veterans from committing suicide indicates they could use it to do the opposite. Simply making an enemy very depressed will disable him by ensuring he loses will to fight or protest.

"The opposite" is causing veterans to commit suicide. Which is actually pretty likely considering how things went when the eating disorder hotline replaced humans with an llm.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Google's "don't be evil", removed when it was against profit. Silicon Valley's "We're all family" culture, screw that, company profit first, you're all laid off! Now this. When did "liberal" becomes synonymous with liberally removing/adding a moral value when they no longer works for your profit ? It's not a wonder why half of the country no longer believe in "liberalism".

I've never really associated Google, Silicon Valley culture, or OpenAI with "liberalism". I'm pretty sure all three have been primarily about making money from the very instant money got involved. It's the same with basically every successful corporation. Anyone with ideals and values beyond "more money at the expense of all else" gets forced out.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sure hope so, Russia has 100% been doing it, with multiple documented „botfarms” (more like fake identity verification farms)

TikTok algo can do it more subtly through prioritizing other people’s media, selectively amplifying legitimately generated content

There was a period of time last year where TikTok really wanted me to see the Canadian government as an unmitigated disaster. Just endless scrolls of random mouth frothers screaming about it.

Not opining on the matter specifically; just that TikTok had a very clear opinion on what I ought to think.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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post #5

Important to know: > Anna Makanju, the company’s vice president of global affairs ... added that it will retain its ban on developing weapons

Almost certainly only because weapons need solid math that LLMs still can't handle.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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The CIA probably realizes it doesn't need to fund rebel groups [1] or use local journalists/clergy [2] to instigate a regime change these days - they can just flood a target country's social media with AI-generated propaganda. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair 2. https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/hear...

I sure hope so, Russia has 100% been doing it, with multiple documented „botfarms” (more like fake identity verification farms)

I've noticed a huge surge in negativity and pessimism on English-language social media within the last year or so, roughly corresponding with to the spread of LLM tech. I do wonder whether these people are mostly just bots.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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The CIA probably realizes it doesn't need to fund rebel groups [1] or use local journalists/clergy [2] to instigate a regime change these days - they can just flood a target country's social media with AI-generated propaganda. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair 2. https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/hear...

I sure hope so, Russia has 100% been doing it, with multiple documented „botfarms” (more like fake identity verification farms)

Russia also drops people out of the windows. Should we (the supposedly humane West) start doing the same just because they do?

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Google's "don't be evil", removed when it was against profit. Silicon Valley's "We're all family" culture, screw that, company profit first, you're all laid off! Now this. When did "liberal" becomes synonymous with liberally removing/adding a moral value when they no longer works for your profit ? It's not a wonder why half of the country no longer believe in "liberalism".

Neither Silicon Valley nor Google have ever been "liberal." Both have always had deep roots in the military industrial complex. The "liberal" bias of tech is just culture war propaganda.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TikTok algo can do it more subtly through prioritizing other people’s media, selectively amplifying legitimately generated content

There was a period of time last year where TikTok really wanted me to see the Canadian government as an unmitigated disaster. Just endless scrolls of random mouth frothers screaming about it. Not opining on the matter specifically; just that TikTok had a very clear opinion on what I ought to think.

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Good! I'm tired of all of the SV companies presupposing that government work must be unethical. Even if the work is for weapons, having the largest advantage possible will prevent or shorten wars and save lives. Do you want your sons and daughters to fight a fair fight?

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a period of time last year where TikTok really wanted me to see the Canadian government as an unmitigated disaster. Just endless scrolls of random mouth frothers screaming about it. Not opining on the matter specifically; just that TikTok had a very clear opinion on what I ought to think.

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Yeah I’m not interested in discussing the subject matter here.
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