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OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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This is the sort of thing that becomes possible after dropping the ethical members of their board.

I wonder how the OpenAI employees feel about this after their full throated support for reinstating Altman and the shuffling of the previous board.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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Exactly. Every American company should be proud to be a partner to the Pentagon. They don’t choose their missions but overall the world is a better place with American hegemony expressed through her military superiority. It would be a tragedy to lose hold of the world order because an arbitrary board disagrees with how congress uses them.

> overall the world is a better place with American hegemony expressed through her military superiority.

This seems like a non-falsifiable claim about the future, even if it can be argued for rationally with regard to the past.

Have you ever been somewhere that you needed to defend this belief rationally, or does it appear to you as self-evident?

I think we can evaluate how far the discourse is fallen by the reflex to attempt to hide questions that the hegemon's apologists don't like instead of answering them.

Perhaps this bullying attitude is one of the many reasons that most of the world does not feel that it's better off today with American hegemony.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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This is the sort of thing that becomes possible after dropping the ethical members of their board.

I wonder how the OpenAI employees feel about this after their full throated support for reinstating Altman and the shuffling of the previous board.

I'm $ure they feel okay about it

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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As a liberal raised during the backlash to the Iraq War, my attitude towards the Military Industrial Complex has really changed in the aftermath of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and China’s seemingly inevitable invasion of Taiwan. Add in the possibility that the US could be dragged into new wars in the Middle East and even possibly South America, and I really don’t think we have the luxury to say “weapons bad, let’s not build any”.

Being the policeman of the world absolutely sucks. War absolutely sucks. But one of the best ways to prevent China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, etc from saying “might make right, let’s take this land and these resources from our neighbors, since no one can stop us” is for the US to say, “no, we will stop you and we have the will and the tools to easily do it.”

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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As a liberal raised during the backlash to the Iraq War, my attitude towards the Military Industrial Complex has really changed in the aftermath of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and China’s seemingly inevitable invasion of Taiwan. Add in the possibility that the US could be dragged into new wars in the Middle East and even possibly South America, and I really don’t think we have the luxury to say “weapons bad, let’s n…

Fuck yeah. Nobody steals resources except us.

Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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As a liberal raised during the backlash to the Iraq War, my attitude towards the Military Industrial Complex has really changed in the aftermath of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and China’s seemingly inevitable invasion of Taiwan. Add in the possibility that the US could be dragged into new wars in the Middle East and even possibly South America, and I really don’t think we have the luxury to say “weapons bad, let’s n…

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Re: OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pentagon

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This is the right take. AI on the battlefield is a foregone conclusion, so it behooves us to understand and implement AI earlier, rather than later. That way we can do it in a measured and tested way; the alterative is realizing our lack of AI is causing us to lose a war and accelerating implementation of it as much as possible with less regard for safety.

“behoove” in a discussion about tech and the military is where worlds collide. The favorite word of mixed-ly educated, immensely powerful senior enlisted. I’ve been told what behooves me many a time but this is the first time that AI has behooved me.
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