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The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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> Example? If we think that food is generally abundant, I think it would be fair to say that famines are caused because people are deprived of food that is available, but either too expensive, and/or too valuable to other parties. Given that, any example of famine or malnutrition, should be considered.

I don't know of any capitalist country that suffers from famine. Malnutrition is usually the result of disease or drug abuse, not lack of food.

Millions of US citizens suffered from malnutrition during the Great Depression.

More recently, half of Africa and SE Asia had malnutrition issues. Only in India, ~100M people currently suffer from malnutrition.

I'm pretty sure that's not linked to drug abuse.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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I wouldn't put phones as the responsible one so generally. I view phones as tool to 'solve' specific problems, such as communication. Apps and websites such as Outlook (email apps with notifications in general), LinkedIn, Instagram, TikTok, maybe also Hackernews etc. pose more of the role of ruining our downtime, as they are designed that way. At the end it would probably be about the lack of media competency, not kn…

> I wouldn't put phones as the responsible one so generally. From my experience, phone is an extremely common factor. If you randomly take a peek at any person in the 1st and 2nd world during their "downtime", I bet that you will 99% of the time see them on their phone. Phone have absolutely consumed everything we used to do. I cannot remember seeing a person just sitting on chair staring blankly, they almost always…

Well yes, what I was trying to imply was that we usually use our phones in combination with social media, not the phone without social media. If we were to try to mindlessly scroll through the android settings app, at some point it just gets boring and we put our phones away (or open up an actual social media app).

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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> In essence, nobody needs nobody else anymore, because frankly, we dont need each other for survival anymore. Individualism is advanced enough to have destroyed most need for sticking together. Fascinating to see how far people are willing to go to not name the root cause: technology itself. It’s unthinkable to so many that modern technology as a whole may in fact be a bad idea.

While I am sometimes tempted to just blame it on technology, as someone who is arguably more dependant on tech then most people, I cant really just blame it on tech. Me is blind, and without technology, I am not even sure if I wouldn't be placed in some sort of institution. IOW, without technology, I might have been enslaved by humanity because "they" likely wouldnt have known how to integrate me in a useful way. Wit…

To be clear, I want not only a pre-modern-technology but also a muslim world. I know enough history to know that the non muslim version sucks. To serve just as an example, see how our prophet pbuh. treated blind people, making one his representative and making him a muazzin (person who makes the call for Islamic prayer).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Umm_Maktum

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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I was going off what the family I stayed with in Kuta told me. The mother of the family could not read. Indonesia is quite diverse. There are many isolated ethnic groups. On Lombok material quality of life can vary quite a bit from one village to the next, as can their commitment to Islam.

Kuta? Now, I am completely lost. You stayed in Bali (where Kuta is located) and the family was telling you about life in a the next island (Lombok). Strange. I would have not believed it unless they had intimate ties to Lombok.

You really are lost, you're on the wrong island

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Recent studies confirm earlier works that show that household political views strongly influence teenage mental health. [1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/548381/quality-parent-child-rel... [2] https://www.carolinajournal.com/report-conservative-parents-... [3] https://ifstudies.org/blog/parenting-is-the-key-to-adolescen...

Ignorance is bliss. Conservative parents raise more ignorant teens.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Not sure how you got to this conclusion from the initial post. My point was condemning somebody to existence in this world is.

that's even more insane

If you truly believe to know something i dont, i would hope you had responded. This way it looks like you prefer feeling right over being right.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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> People act on their political views by voting -- the decided on political views through what they hear and read. We agree that as long as people keep their views to themselves we don't care what views they hold. And we obviously agree that harassment is bad, lynching is bad, sexual harassment is bad. These continued straw men don't really add anything here. Running for an office with political views is part of acti…

> Should your coworkers care or not? Or are you allowed to have any political views as long as you don't participate in the democratical process? :) If think your political views involve taking the rights away from your coworkers or even causing them to feel unsafe I think they have the right to care? If I'm your coworker and I want to take away your rights, I think you'd want to care about that right? You're not jus…

> > But it was pro and against same sex civic partnership if it makes any difference for you.

> Why would someone be against same sex civic partnership? If you're not homosexual, it doesn't impact you at all.

So it's fine to sexually assault a protester if you don't get why protester may hold such opinion?

> Yes there is a fine line. I'm accepting of that fine line but you want to just eliminate it. It's not that you for for free speech rights, it's just that you want one group to have them and another group to be restricted from having them. You accept that speech is important but you don't grasp why -- because it's meant to accomplish something. Speech is powerful, useful, and even dangerous.

Are you saying „you“ as in me? Or talking about hypothetical „you“? If this is former, I'm for free speech. But those who want to use their „free speech“ to prevent other from speaking are not exercising „free speech“. If people would use such „free speech“ to prevent people from your political side, would you still look at it the same way? Or does different standards apply here, because you believe your ideas are so open and accepting nobody could do that?

> Sure, and you know what is also authoritarian? Authoritarians sharing authoritarian ideas, convincing others, and implementing. If you're tolerant of intolerance than you up with nothing but intolerance and you achieve authoritarianism that way. It's not like there's no historical precedent for this. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

So it's authoritarianism one way or another. Nice and accepting political ideas right there...

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