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Re: Infowars and Goop sell the same exact pseudoscientific "wellness" products

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Post by mobilejdral »

kossTKR wrote: post #19

Huberman is almost as bad which is funny to me because he's regarded as an authority. Worst is the completely useless powder called Athletic Greens that he pushes left and right. There must _really_ be big bucks in supplements and lifestyle products like this, as it's coming just as much from very learned Harvard PhD's as Alex Jones. Currently it's bro science connected to life extension, cold baths, red and blue lig…

It took me way to long to find the ingredient list for the Athletic Greens starting from the main page. Even on the actual page itself you have to click a button to see it. https://drinkag1.com/about-ag1/ingredients/ctr

It appeared that it was hidden on purpose and I was expecting the worst, but after seeing it I would have to disagree with your comment about it being useless. From the list I would compare it to many daily vitamins. Many are deficient in these basic vitamins (why is a separate discussion).

It isn't useless, but maybe it is simply overpriced for what it is? Most notably seems to be missing vitamin D.

In the near future you could take your dna file and upload it to a website and it would tell you what supplement is best for you, but for now as in the past there will be generic multi-vitamins that try to fit everyone. And like in the past some will lean heavily on the marketing side.

Re: Infowars and Goop sell the same exact pseudoscientific "wellness" products

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Post by HideousKojima »

pluc wrote: post #49
ThinkingGuy wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A large part of the problem is that dietary supplements in the US are basically exempt from truth-in-advertising laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_Supplement_Health_and_...

American media as a whole is exempt from truth, quite literally. In Canada, you cannot knowingly lie on air. It's illegal. Why do you think we don't have FOX

>Canadian media isn't allowed to lie

I dunno, check out the Y axis on this chart the CBC posted: https://media.assettype.com/westernstandard%2Fimport%2Fweste...

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Post by RandallBrown »

slibhb wrote: post #109

And you can buy homeopathic remedies at CVS. At best this is a kind of placebo. At worst it's people being dumb, which is not illegal. Move on!

At worst it's harming people with something poisonous or toxic.

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Post by noizejoy »

stcredzero wrote: post #21

A data point for the orthogonality of politics and intelligence. If one is holding to the belief that a certain political stance means people are somehow deficient, it just shows that one is vulnerable to propaganda which dehumanizes and blames a group. Don't hate the person. Call out the stupid. Actually, don't hate. It makes you stupid. (Again, this is orthogonal to politics!)

It’s incredibly difficult to call out and correct negative beliefs and behaviours while maintaining a fully positive human relationship. — It just doesn’t seem to scale well.

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Post by paxys »

throwup238 wrote: post #5

I swear to god this whole simulation is starting to come apart at the seams. Goop ? Someone named a "modern lifestyle brand" company Goop ? And people are actually buying their shit? I think whoever is running the show should just hand the reigns to the Dwarf Fortress guys. At least their bugs are believable.

Why is that the surprising part to you? It's a brand name. We buy hi-tech electronics from a company named after a fruit. Plenty of other top brand names are either nonsensical or heavily ironic. That's just how marketing works.

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Post by pico303 »

roughly wrote: post #101

The anti-authority/anti-expert theme in American politics isn't a left or right phenomenon. There's a fundamental breakdown in institutional trust within American society which is present on both sides, and the similar approaches to wellness are a vivid expression of this.

I feel like this is an understandable trend. With inflation and job markets and various conflicts around the world, combined with the near constant flood of near-realtime data online, it’s easy to feel overwhelmed. This “anti-expert,” Qanon, flat-earth conspiracy trend fundamentally is a way for folks who feel like life is out of their control to get some of that control back by believing they have some piece of knowledge or information that gives them a “one up” on the “establishment.” I know something that you don’t, and that gives me power…when I don’t really have any.

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Post by EA-3167 »

roughly wrote: post #101

The anti-authority/anti-expert theme in American politics isn't a left or right phenomenon. There's a fundamental breakdown in institutional trust within American society which is present on both sides, and the similar approaches to wellness are a vivid expression of this.

I think it's more than a coincidence that we see this "anti-expert" ideology concentrated at the two political poles. For either the far left or right, it's important to reject evidence that doesn't conform to ideology, and eventually the way to do that is to reject authority that isn't your own. They don't want to be subject to authority, they want to be be the unquestioned authority.

It doesn't matter if the topic is far beyond them, what matters is that they have an answer and that answer reinforces their biases. Reality is the enemy.

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

surfingdino wrote: post #107
gumby wrote: post #48

Worth reading just to learn of the existence of "activated cashews" Our enzyme-rich, activated, and dehydrated cashews are a mineral-dense protein. Pure, alkaline water awakens the nuts' dormant properties, increasing digestibility and micronutrient, vitamin, and enzyme count. These raw, activated, bio-available nuts are a low-glycemic source of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids. As well as a product for sale at infowa…

"Pure, alkaline water" ... so is it pure or is it alkaline?

It's pure(ly) alkaline (minerals in the )water (and maybe other stuff, too).

Re: Infowars and Goop sell the same exact pseudoscientific "wellness" products

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Post by kossTKR »

mobilejdral wrote: post #111
kossTKR wrote: post #19

Huberman is almost as bad which is funny to me because he's regarded as an authority. Worst is the completely useless powder called Athletic Greens that he pushes left and right. There must _really_ be big bucks in supplements and lifestyle products like this, as it's coming just as much from very learned Harvard PhD's as Alex Jones. Currently it's bro science connected to life extension, cold baths, red and blue lig…

It took me way to long to find the ingredient list for the Athletic Greens starting from the main page. Even on the actual page itself you have to click a button to see it. https://drinkag1.com/about-ag1/ingredients/ctr It appeared that it was hidden on purpose and I was expecting the worst, but after seeing it I would have to disagree with your comment about it being useless. From the list I would compare it to many…

Selling a multivitamin you could buy for a few dollars in a big cloud of smoke and mirrors is a scam in my opinion.

Just say you sell vitamin d. Not some ultra esoteric branded product with extreme markups and hints at something it definitely isn't - namely anything to do with "Greens.

And doing this as a "certified science man" is even more ridiculous.

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