Do something weird, pump up the price.
Filecoin Foundation Successfully Deploys IPFS in Space
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#52I'm still a little lost. Could someone more knowledgeable than me explain how operations in space would benefit from a public content-addressable filesystem? This seems like the kind of application that works best when bandwidth and storage are cheap, and I would have assumed that that, in space, both are about as far from cheap as you can get.
The internet traditionally uses location-addressing. A DNS name pointing to a IP which has a specific location your computer tries to reach in order to fetch the content. This means that particular node needs to respond to you, and the bandwidth is depending on the bandwidth available on the particular path to that specific node. Instead, IPFS uses content-addressing, where the content is hashed and given a ID based…
> The internet traditionally uses location-addressing. A DNS name pointing to a IP which has a specific geographical location
This complete nonsense. First of all DNS can give you multiple IP addresses[1] (that's how CDNs work eh!) and then IP addresses are only very loosely coupled to geographical locations…
[1]: https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/what-is-anycast-dns/
Re: Filecoin Foundation Successfully Deploys IPFS in Space
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Torrents with extra steps, eh?
It's basically the same idea as magnet links, so you could say it's torrents with the same steps.
The main advantage IPFS has over torrents with magnet links is global deduplication / a global swarm. If you seed a torrent that just contains book A, and I seed a torrent that contains books A and B, I won't provide any bandwidth to people downloading book A through your torrent. If we were using IPFS, someone downloading book A will be able to pull from both you and me, even if we don't personally know about each other and started seeding independently.
Re: Filecoin Foundation Successfully Deploys IPFS in Space
#54Huge achievement. A big, big stepping stone toward interplanetary communication. But while I love the idea of IPFS, it comes with a bunch of tradeoffs that I think make it very unlikely that it'll ever become mainstream. What I do think will happen in space, is similar to what already happens with PoPs around the world, no IPFS required. As an example: I believe that there will be a YouTube on the moon and YouTube on…
Is this a joke? If anything they would use a centralized service and not have to install a wallet to communicate.
Re: Filecoin Foundation Successfully Deploys IPFS in Space
#55Sure space is cool (or maybe not, but don't want to upset the HN consensus), but this seems like a total gimmick and waste of money, time, and PR.
Except it's true.
I don't see a use case for this other than speculation.
I would even go as far to say that this 'side project' was done to try and pump the price of filecoin so that people can take profit off of it.
Re: Filecoin Foundation Successfully Deploys IPFS in Space
#56Filecoin is probably one of the few cryptocurrencies with intrinsic value, even if the amount is debatable. IPFS has stood the test of time and seems like a good protocol; and a cryptocurrency that can be used to pay for storage is not valueless.
So is Storj and Sia. It raises the question, though: I can pay Storj S3 with STORJ tokens, and I can also pay for renterd space with Sia tokens, and I can also pay for IPFS with Filecoin, and all of them still work with good old credit cards. What "intrinsic" value is there for any of these tokens, if they can only be used on their own internal economies? And before the "but permissionless, so I can pay with crypto!"…
I guess if you are inside the crypto ecosystem, it's easier to pay nodes via tokens.
Re: Filecoin Foundation Successfully Deploys IPFS in Space
#57Huge achievement. A big, big stepping stone toward interplanetary communication. But while I love the idea of IPFS, it comes with a bunch of tradeoffs that I think make it very unlikely that it'll ever become mainstream. What I do think will happen in space, is similar to what already happens with PoPs around the world, no IPFS required. As an example: I believe that there will be a YouTube on the moon and YouTube on…
And you gonna have 3 people watching YouTube in space after using millions to send them there?
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#58Filecoin is probably one of the few cryptocurrencies with intrinsic value, even if the amount is debatable. IPFS has stood the test of time and seems like a good protocol; and a cryptocurrency that can be used to pay for storage is not valueless.
Sounds like bullshit to me.
Ignoring the question if it is bullshit or not, what do you personally gain from posting comments like this? Wouldn't it be more interesting for everyone involved (including yourself) if you actually share the arguments against the parent comment, if you have any?
Re: Filecoin Foundation Successfully Deploys IPFS in Space
#59I'm still a little lost. Could someone more knowledgeable than me explain how operations in space would benefit from a public content-addressable filesystem? This seems like the kind of application that works best when bandwidth and storage are cheap, and I would have assumed that that, in space, both are about as far from cheap as you can get.
I think the idea behind content addressable databases like this is that they are supposed to be permanent. Putting it out into space may be a way of saying "its never going down".
Most likely and obfuscation technique, they (IPFS people) are afraid to admit that there is no guarantee about file preservation there at all (unless you pay to people hosting your files specifically) and cache eviction may happen to your file at any time, so they try to shout all across the internet how their tech is so reliable and great to drown any dissent. Scary and important looking headlines like "Something In Space" help to instill superficial respect in the tech.
Re: Filecoin Foundation Successfully Deploys IPFS in Space
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
The internet traditionally uses location-addressing. A DNS name pointing to a IP which has a specific location your computer tries to reach in order to fetch the content. This means that particular node needs to respond to you, and the bandwidth is depending on the bandwidth available on the particular path to that specific node. Instead, IPFS uses content-addressing, where the content is hashed and given a ID based…
> The internet traditionally uses location-addressing. A DNS name pointing to a IP which has a specific geographical location This complete nonsense. First of all DNS can give you multiple IP addresses[1] (that's how CDNs work eh!) and then IP addresses are only very loosely coupled to geographical locations… [1]: https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/what-is-anycast-dns/
Obviously, it's a simplification, as I'm sure you realized by now. Generally though, I think it can serve as a initial starting point to understanding more.
Edit: I removed the "geographical" from the "pointing to a IP which has a specific geographical location" part. Hopefully it'll make things clear enough while not over-simplifying it.