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Passwordless: a different kind of hell?

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Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?

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Post by fragmede »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #30

Note that all uses of the password before the computer were not for personal security, but organizational security. If the enemy infiltrated without the use of the password, it could mean the downfall of an empire. Today we use passwords largely for personal security. Yet when companies choose what methods of authentication/authorization they offer, they don't care what the user wants. They pick methods that will mak…

The "standard" is to have someone else deal with it. Login with Auth0/Apple/Facebook/Google/GitHub/Microsoft/GitHub/Twitter/etc is that.

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Post by tored »

hypeatei wrote: post #53
cedws wrote: post #19

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Nah, thieves are scum. People don't steal cars and bikes to buy food, they do it because they're selfish and want a shortcut to get the things they want. In any first world country there are ways to get food without resorting to taking other peoples' possessions that they worked hard for. There are many people out there having a really hard time who would never even think about stealing because they were raised with…

Both can be true: thieves are scum and modern society exacerbates the problem. Sure, we should punish crime but never solving the root problem and taking a "hardline" approach towards the symptoms feels good. But, it puts us in a perpetual state of law enforcement and anxiety about crime.

Please explain what is the root problem and how solve it.

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Post by _heimdall »

asylteltine wrote: post #69
cedws wrote: post #3

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I came to this realisation not too long ago as well. It's saddening to imagine how much better the world in general would be if it weren't for criminals. Generations before mine talk about their childhood as a wonderful time. Not having to lock their bikes up when going into a shop. Not having security cameras watching their every move. Not having barriers everywhere to prevent theft. My local supermarket introduced…

I agree! And I think we could if we had very harsh punishments. We are way too lenient on crime. Steal? Life in jail. Litter? Year long sentence. Assault? Life in jail. Criminals are going to commit crime and there is absolutely no evidence that rehabilitation works for those kinds of crime. We need to keep them away from society and change our culture to be entirely intolerant of crime.

I really hope this is facetious.

Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?

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Post by asylteltine »

jampekka wrote: post #5
asylteltine wrote: post #2

The reason this happens is because of bad actors. This is why we can’t have nice things. Walk around and pay attention next time and you will notice all the little things that are shitty because of bad actors like thieves.

Thieves and other "bad actors" are often a consequence of deeper underlying problems. People don't tend to steal that much when they are economically comfortable. OTOH with no legal resort to get sustinence, you're guaranteed to get people to resort to illegal means. I'm rather baffled how educated adult human beings keep on analyzing the world using moralistic fairytale level concepts like "bad actors" or "evildoers…

But they don’t steal food they steal TVs and power tools or cars. It’s a lifestyle not a survival mechanism. When I was poor I stole food so I wouldn’t go hungry. I never stole money or robbed people… those are just lame excuses that allow them to keep committing crime.

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Post by upon_drumhead »

pc86 wrote: post #57
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #21

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Why would you submit yourself to using PayPal when you don't have to? Serious question.

PayPal is my first choice and if I go to check out on your store and you don't have PayPal as an option, the chances I abandon my cart if I don't have my wallet just went up exponentially. I use it as a buffer between me and the provider. Everything goes through a credit card so I still get the points/miles I would get entering the card directly. Except now they don't have a credit card token they can keep charging f…

Privacy[.]com replaced my PayPal usage pretty much completely. Virtual credit cards tied to individual merchants with limits.

Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?

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Post by asylteltine »

cedws wrote: post #34
jampekka wrote: post #24

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This is why we can't have nice things.

I don't know how I'm supposed to have any sympathy for thieves when myself and my family have been victims of multiple thefts totalling tens of thousands of pounds over the past years. I comforted my mum while she bawled her eyes out for hours when her car was stolen off of our driveway at the crack of dawn. Fuck thieves.

Exactly. Being a thief is a personality. We need to lock them up forever. How dare someone take something that isn’t theirs.

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Post by jdthedisciple »

BizarreByte wrote: post #44
cedws wrote: post #34

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I don't know how I'm supposed to have any sympathy for thieves when myself and my family have been victims of multiple thefts totalling tens of thousands of pounds over the past years. I comforted my mum while she bawled her eyes out for hours when her car was stolen off of our driveway at the crack of dawn. Fuck thieves.

One a thief always a thief, there's a reason it was punished so severely throughout history. Theft has the highest recidivism rate too[1]. You can never trust someone who has stolen again, thieves are the scum of the earth and only hurt good people. [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/proven-reoffending-...

Hmmm maybe there is a good reason they chop off thieves' hands in Islam...

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Post by eddd-ddde »

michaelt wrote: post #7

I recently ordered something on ebay. Nothing expensive, just a £60 item, and delivered to an address I've ordered many things to in the past. First I had to log into ebay - no problem, got my password manager right here, as soon as I unlock my phone with my fingerprint. Now I'll just key in my 12 character, randomly generated password with mixed case letters, numbers and symbols. Then ebay decided they wanted to sen…

I've never had to authenticate with a bank for using a card? Is this common for you?

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Post by pc86 »

upon_drumhead wrote: post #75
pc86 wrote: post #57

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PayPal is my first choice and if I go to check out on your store and you don't have PayPal as an option, the chances I abandon my cart if I don't have my wallet just went up exponentially. I use it as a buffer between me and the provider. Everything goes through a credit card so I still get the points/miles I would get entering the card directly. Except now they don't have a credit card token they can keep charging f…

Privacy[.]com replaced my PayPal usage pretty much completely. Virtual credit cards tied to individual merchants with limits.

And tied to a direct back account, requiring you to use cash and lose any CC benefits. I use Privacy for things I know I only want to charge once (e.g. $1 trials or things of that nature) but not being able to charge a CC with Privacy is a bit blocker most of the time.
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