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Thieves and other "bad actors" are often a consequence of deeper underlying problems. People don't tend to steal that much when they are economically comfortable. OTOH with no legal resort to get sustinence, you're guaranteed to get people to resort to illegal means. I'm rather baffled how educated adult human beings keep on analyzing the world using moralistic fairytale level concepts like "bad actors" or "evildoers…
Nah, thieves are scum. People don't steal cars and bikes to buy food, they do it because they're selfish and want a shortcut to get the things they want. In any first world country there are ways to get food without resorting to taking other peoples' possessions that they worked hard for. There are many people out there having a really hard time who would never even think about stealing because they were raised with…
Passwordless: a different kind of hell?
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Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?
#62I recently ordered something on ebay. Nothing expensive, just a £60 item, and delivered to an address I've ordered many things to in the past. First I had to log into ebay - no problem, got my password manager right here, as soon as I unlock my phone with my fingerprint. Now I'll just key in my 12 character, randomly generated password with mixed case letters, numbers and symbols. Then ebay decided they wanted to sen…
Apple pay when available is about as low friction as you can get. I know it isnt available to everyone but there should be some similar standard that is. Near seamless.
Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?
#63I recently ordered something on ebay. Nothing expensive, just a £60 item, and delivered to an address I've ordered many things to in the past. First I had to log into ebay - no problem, got my password manager right here, as soon as I unlock my phone with my fingerprint. Now I'll just key in my 12 character, randomly generated password with mixed case letters, numbers and symbols. Then ebay decided they wanted to sen…
Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?
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Yeah, assuming that my biometric auth is relatively strong, stays on my device, and is a device-specific hashed representation I have a hard time finding fault. I believe most modern phone's biometrics fit that criteria.
> stays on my device Heh.
Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?
#65I recently ordered something on ebay. Nothing expensive, just a £60 item, and delivered to an address I've ordered many things to in the past. First I had to log into ebay - no problem, got my password manager right here, as soon as I unlock my phone with my fingerprint. Now I'll just key in my 12 character, randomly generated password with mixed case letters, numbers and symbols. Then ebay decided they wanted to sen…
Sounds like you've got some unusual configuration options turned on or something. The most glaring odd thing here is that you apparently don't have your password vault available on the same machine you're shopping from, which seems odd to me. Even so, if I went that route it'd still be easy b/c with the Apple ecosystem, the clipboard is shared between devices. One can copy a password from the phone and paste it on th…
Likewise I've used a half dozen different cards and multiple bank accounts through PayPal for the last couple decades and can't remember the last time I've had to reauth on any of them during a checkout.
Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?
#66I understand the frustration with login systems, but why is the title "Passwordless: A Different Kind of Hell" if it doesn't talk about passwordless authentication, like passkeys, magic links, and biometrics?
By the title, I thought the article would explore some of the downsides of this approach that I might be missing.
Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?
#67I recently ordered something on ebay. Nothing expensive, just a £60 item, and delivered to an address I've ordered many things to in the past. First I had to log into ebay - no problem, got my password manager right here, as soon as I unlock my phone with my fingerprint. Now I'll just key in my 12 character, randomly generated password with mixed case letters, numbers and symbols. Then ebay decided they wanted to sen…
Sounds like you've got some unusual configuration options turned on or something. The most glaring odd thing here is that you apparently don't have your password vault available on the same machine you're shopping from, which seems odd to me. Even so, if I went that route it'd still be easy b/c with the Apple ecosystem, the clipboard is shared between devices. One can copy a password from the phone and paste it on th…
To be fair to the parties involved, they might well blame "EU strong customer authentication rules"
Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?
#68Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?
#69The reason this happens is because of bad actors. This is why we can’t have nice things. Walk around and pay attention next time and you will notice all the little things that are shitty because of bad actors like thieves.
I came to this realisation not too long ago as well. It's saddening to imagine how much better the world in general would be if it weren't for criminals. Generations before mine talk about their childhood as a wonderful time. Not having to lock their bikes up when going into a shop. Not having security cameras watching their every move. Not having barriers everywhere to prevent theft. My local supermarket introduced…
Steal? Life in jail.
Litter? Year long sentence.
Assault? Life in jail.
Criminals are going to commit crime and there is absolutely no evidence that rehabilitation works for those kinds of crime. We need to keep them away from society and change our culture to be entirely intolerant of crime.
Re: Passwordless: a different kind of hell?
#70The reason this happens is because of bad actors. This is why we can’t have nice things. Walk around and pay attention next time and you will notice all the little things that are shitty because of bad actors like thieves.
I came to this realisation not too long ago as well. It's saddening to imagine how much better the world in general would be if it weren't for criminals. Generations before mine talk about their childhood as a wonderful time. Not having to lock their bikes up when going into a shop. Not having security cameras watching their every move. Not having barriers everywhere to prevent theft. My local supermarket introduced…
More importantly though, generations past also often lived in smaller communities then we have today. When your world is smaller and you are only a degree or two of separation away from everyone, people often feel more bound to a certain standard of behavior. Stealing a bike in NYC today is one thing, stealing a bike in a town where you probably know whose bike it is and someone will recognize it if you ever actually ride it is very different.
The larger we grow societal centers and the more we expand the boundaries of our own world, the more we break societal bonds and need laws to enforce rules that are more easily broken when your victim is just another random person living there.