How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
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How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
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Re: How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
#2I'm not sure I completely understand. Are you recommending people shop around? Do you want someone to develop a service to shop around for storage? Or, do you simply want a cheaper competitor?
Re: How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
#3"In 2006 a 320 GB hard drive cost $120. Today (Thailand floods aside) that much money will snag you a 3 TB drive."
Floods or not, the current price isn't $120 dollars. It's 50% higher than that.
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Desk...
Shows one of the cheapest 3tb non enterprise drives. It looks like 3tb was $120 for ~2 weeks. Looking at enterprise drives, 3tb is closer to $300.
This article is basically advocating RAID 5 across many storage providers.
*edit: From the pictures, article is advocating RAID 10. Nonetheless, RAID5 would be just as feasible for additional storage.
Re: How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
#4I'm not sure I completely understand. Are you recommending people shop around? Do you want someone to develop a service to shop around for storage? Or, do you simply want a cheaper competitor?
Thanks for the comment. I just edited the post to try to make it clearer.
I'm proposing that anyone could start a company, Foo Inc, who would sell redundant storage and compete with S3. Instead of operating your own hard drives, you rent hard drives connected to the Internet from a variety of providers. Of course your customer would know that you were doing this, and advanced customers could even choose their own blend of raw storage providers to optimize for different things.
Towards the end of the post I mention briefly that instead of a startup (Foo Inc), this ecosystem could be set up in a decentralized way (think Bitcoin v.s. central banking), though that is far less realistic.
Re: How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
#5"In 2006 a 320 GB hard drive cost $120. Today (Thailand floods aside) that much money will snag you a 3 TB drive." Floods or not, the current price isn't $120 dollars. It's 50% higher than that. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Desk... Shows one of the cheapest 3tb non enterprise drives. It looks like 3tb was $120 for ~2 weeks. Looking at enterprise drives, 3tb is closer to $300. This article i…
People always conveniently forget as well that when you store data at S3 or Rackspace they're doing 3 replica's. If you store 3TB's, its not just the cost of a single 3TB drive..its 3x. To do it at home you'd need to buy 3x3TB Drives @300$ each.
Re: How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
#6"In 2006 a 320 GB hard drive cost $120. Today (Thailand floods aside) that much money will snag you a 3 TB drive." Floods or not, the current price isn't $120 dollars. It's 50% higher than that. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Desk... Shows one of the cheapest 3tb non enterprise drives. It looks like 3tb was $120 for ~2 weeks. Looking at enterprise drives, 3tb is closer to $300. This article i…
> This article is basically advocating RAID 5 across many storage providers.
That is correct. And to be more precise, I'm advocating RAID 5 across storage providers as a service, so people who just want to store data don't have to manage anything.
Re: How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
#7"In 2006 a 320 GB hard drive cost $120. Today (Thailand floods aside) that much money will snag you a 3 TB drive." Floods or not, the current price isn't $120 dollars. It's 50% higher than that. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Desk... Shows one of the cheapest 3tb non enterprise drives. It looks like 3tb was $120 for ~2 weeks. Looking at enterprise drives, 3tb is closer to $300. This article i…
People always conveniently forget as well that when you store data at S3 or Rackspace they're doing 3 replica's. If you store 3TB's, its not just the cost of a single 3TB drive..its 3x. To do it at home you'd need to buy 3x3TB Drives @300$ each.
That's right. The main point is that these services still benefit from the falling cost of storage.
Re: How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
#8"In 2006 a 320 GB hard drive cost $120. Today (Thailand floods aside) that much money will snag you a 3 TB drive." Floods or not, the current price isn't $120 dollars. It's 50% higher than that. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Desk... Shows one of the cheapest 3tb non enterprise drives. It looks like 3tb was $120 for ~2 weeks. Looking at enterprise drives, 3tb is closer to $300. This article i…
> This article is basically advocating RAID 5 across many storage providers. That is correct. And to be more precise, I'm advocating RAID 5 across storage providers as a service , so people who just want to store data don't have to manage anything.
Wouldn't the next issue become bandwidth? Sure, you have cheap storage, but you still need to manipulate the data somehow. I know S3 only charges for outbound data. What about the other companies? Is bandwidth free and plenty?
Re: How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
#9So... let me get this straight. You came up with an idea which requires building a strong brand which takes a lot of money and that Amazon can squelch any second there's a hint of possibility of a success. And this made HackerNews frontpage. What?
Re: How to: Compete with Amazon S3 without Buying Hardware
#10"In 2006 a 320 GB hard drive cost $120. Today (Thailand floods aside) that much money will snag you a 3 TB drive." Floods or not, the current price isn't $120 dollars. It's 50% higher than that. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Desk... Shows one of the cheapest 3tb non enterprise drives. It looks like 3tb was $120 for ~2 weeks. Looking at enterprise drives, 3tb is closer to $300. This article i…
> This article is basically advocating RAID 5 across many storage providers. That is correct. And to be more precise, I'm advocating RAID 5 across storage providers as a service , so people who just want to store data don't have to manage anything.
>> This article is basically advocating RAID 5 across many storage providers.
> That is correct.
The diagram in the article and text description is RAID 1+0 aka RAID 10.