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Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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leave it to Action Retro to lie and mislead viewers...

Are they known for that? They deleted a perfectly respectable comment of mine yesterday and I’m a bit wary.

They tend to overhype everything for clickbait titles on YouTube.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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Disagree strongly. I find its appearance 10X more visually appealing than any modern UI (win/mac/kde/etc). They’re all incredibly wasteful of space and chunky. Also, designers ruined OSX by making it flat and joyless.

They not just waste space but at the same time break some of the UI. Recently it took me half a minute to drag a window into view on Mac OS because aside from a few pixels every single part of the window "title bar" was actually some button or widget. I wish mainstream operating systems implemented DWM's shortcuts for window dragging/resizing, those are amazing: holding the key and left mouse button makes the window…

The interface peaked in Windows 2000.

XP and beyond were a mistake, UI/UX wise.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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I have to imagine the Venn diagram of retirees and people who are interested in trying more obscure operating systems, has only a sliver of overlap. Though I may end up in that camp one day. I did quite a bit of that between graduating from college and getting my first job.

I know that the industry is littered with the skeletons of "kitchen PC for Grandma" that lets a senior connect to the grandkids, set a timer for those apple pies, and do some light surfing, and that it will never work on the slurry-filled Internet that Grandma's kids actually built in their day jobs - but with each passing enshittification of the home user PC experience, the siren song of a simple single user OS that…

That idea is exactly what killed Be. Well, one of the things, anyway.

10 years later the iPad filled that roll and continues un-challenged nearly 14 years later.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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At some point/place I heard it was going to have a ribbon type thing flow down menus. This would help follow stuff in deep drill downs. Really wish someone had done it. https://store.kde.org/s/Opendesktop/p/1080563/ Personally, I think this OS has promise if it could get more modernization. It’d be nice to have another OSS GUI with some leanings into UI/UX. Edit-modernizations like cross compatibility with linux, wou…

BeFS is its own awesome thing. Sure, ZFS integrity and portability is nice, but the speed and metadata of BeFS is great.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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Retirees built every long lasting technology we use everyday, and even invented some too. ;-)

Those pioneers make up the sliver of the Venn diagram.

The majority of them probably aren't interested in trying BeOS as a daily driver, either. More likely they'd use Windows, MacOS, or Linux. Maybe a BSD.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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In 2023, Haiku got Emacs and Vulkan support that makes it much more attractive to me than in the past. But I still feel very reluctant to use something without the industry support that Linux has.

Does that mean they have some accelerated video drivers now? Last I checked (maybe a year ago) there were none at all.

(Haiku developer here.) There is one hardware accelerated driver, for Radeon Southern Islands; but it's third-party, out-of-tree, and not particularly simple to set up and get running. So, not really.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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Haiku looked amazing and beautiful in 2009 when I first learned about it. Today it looks dated like Windows 95.

There's a "flat" decorator which makes things look more 'modern', if that's what you want: https://github.com/unarix/haiku_darkstyle#darkflat

(Available in the Depot; install "haiku_extras" package.)

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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I could not disagree more about Windows 95 looking "dated". It's one the clearest, simplest, and easiest to parse UIs I've ever seen. Buttons look like buttons. Scroll bars are thick and clear. Draggable objects are obvious. It's a huge shame that we've gone only backwards since then, IMHO.

Sometimes I wonder what kids will consider a 'button' since their first few years will be touch screens, magic corner trackpads, and no-show clickers in MightyMice. Do TV remotes even have physical buttons any more?

TV remotes do still have buttons.

Also, there are still on/off buttons and volume buttons on phones. Video game controllers still use buttons. Car radios and car A/C and heaters still use physical buttons.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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Once you start gluing various ported Linux applications onto these alternative OSes, they start to lose their distinctiveness and raison d'être. If you are using Qt/KDE apps, anyways, what does Haiku really bring to the table other than a smaller footprint?

I never programmed for BeOS back in the day, but my understanding was that half the advantage of it was its consistent clean ground-up API for building multimedia applications. I'm not sure how well that has aged, tho...

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