Does that Amazon number include the cost of physically purchasing and installing all of those AWS server farms? Building robotic warehouses? I get that they have high R&D costs but I'm still trying to get my head around how that money is being spent.
Amazon R&D spending is more than that of all companies and government of France
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#23I believe Amazon classifies all costs of software engineering under R&D.
Section 174 is about to change that…
I can't wait until we automate the people cheered this law on, out of a job.
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#24I suspect the numbers are wrong.
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#25Does that Amazon number include the cost of physically purchasing and installing all of those AWS server farms? Building robotic warehouses? I get that they have high R&D costs but I'm still trying to get my head around how that money is being spent.
This bit:
Cost of Sales: 272,344
Fulfillment: 75,111
Technology and Content: 73,213
Sales and Marketing: 32,551
General and Administrative: 8,823
Other Operating Expense (Income), Net: 62
So Technology and Content is the $73bn number.I think Fulfillment covers warehouse and delivery costs.
"Technology and Content" presumably mixes in Amazon Prime studios, which apparently was $16bn in 2022: https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/03/amazon-ramped-up-content-s...
My guess is that it covers AWS infrastructure too.
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#26Seems like a giant waste, where is my thorium power plant? where is my new battery tech? where is my fleet of robot farmers?
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Section 174 is about to change that…
Section 174 is a harebrained law aimed solely at "punishing" successful engineering companies. It is a Trump-era law designed to appease voters mad at what they view as successful big tech "intelligentsia." It will destroy startup culture. I can't wait until we automate the people cheered this law on, out of a job.
I always felt, from outside, that anti trumpers just are against everything he does with simplistic explanation, its a good law amazon has enough money to pay their own r&d
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#28I suspect its just a tax break related policy, ive been doing the same shit at US companies (still in EU), and some European companies (in EU) and the US one were the only one asking me to file reports for hours classified as R&D, maybe european ones have no incentive to do that Id say, considering that, and considering that for these corps taxes are lava, i’d go to look at incentives on taxes about R&D filing
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Operations should not be R&D, but everything else certainly is. Why wouldn't it be?
Because you don’t want to give tax breaks for another todo app and another off the mill CRUD that nowadays can be generated by GPT or could be copied from a template and adjusted. Using a template and adjusting or generating with GPT already sounds more like operations. You want to give tax breaks for real research and development of new things.
The thought of research tax breaks is that the market qualifies them as useful. Useless inventions make no money, and have no income to be taxed anyways.
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#30I suspect its just a tax break related policy, ive been doing the same shit at US companies (still in EU), and some European companies (in EU) and the US one were the only one asking me to file reports for hours classified as R&D, maybe european ones have no incentive to do that Id say, considering that, and considering that for these corps taxes are lava, i’d go to look at incentives on taxes about R&D filing