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Re: Amazon R&D spending is more than that of all companies and government of France

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I believe Amazon classifies all costs of software engineering under R&D.

That seems reasonable. The D does stand for Development.

Not sure. The D in R&D stands for, I imagine, development of the business, whereas the one in software development stands for development of software.

Re: Amazon R&D spending is more than that of all companies and government of France

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Seems like a giant waste, where is my thorium power plant? where is my new battery tech? where is my fleet of robot farmers?

I don't know about your thorium power plant but Tesla is giving you battery tech, and John Deere (~2B$ in R&D) is essentially giving you a fleet of robot farmers.

These are not flying cars, but batteries that are 5 times cheaper in 10 years is impressive. I don't know much about farming but it looks like now, tractors do most of the job, and the guy in the cab is just checking to see if everything goes well. Farmers are still needed, be we need less and less of them for bigger and bigger fields.

Re: Amazon R&D spending is more than that of all companies and government of France

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I believe Amazon classifies all costs of software engineering under R&D.

Operations should not be R&D, but everything else certainly is. Why wouldn't it be?

Because you don’t want to give tax breaks for another todo app and another off the mill CRUD that nowadays can be generated by GPT or could be copied from a template and adjusted. Using a template and adjusting or generating with GPT already sounds more like operations.

You want to give tax breaks for real research and development of new things.

Re: Amazon R&D spending is more than that of all companies and government of France

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems reasonable. The D does stand for Development.

Not sure. The D in R&D stands for, I imagine, development of the business, whereas the one in software development stands for development of software.

> Research and development is the set of innovative activities undertaken by corporations or governments in developing new services or products, and improving existing ones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_and_development

Re: Amazon R&D spending is more than that of all companies and government of France

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Operations should not be R&D, but everything else certainly is. Why wouldn't it be?

Because you don’t want to give tax breaks for another todo app and another off the mill CRUD that nowadays can be generated by GPT or could be copied from a template and adjusted. Using a template and adjusting or generating with GPT already sounds more like operations. You want to give tax breaks for real research and development of new things.

There's no effective way to gatekeep that within the tax code. Tax regulators aren't experts in any research field, let alone all of them.

Re: Amazon R&D spending is more than that of all companies and government of France

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Does that Amazon number include the cost of physically purchasing and installing all of those AWS server farms? Building robotic warehouses?

I get that they have high R&D costs but I'm still trying to get my head around how that money is being spent.

Re: Amazon R&D spending is more than that of all companies and government of France

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I am really confused as to why this is considered as a tax break strategy. Operating costs directly lower earnings, where as R&D might have to be amortized over years - at least in certain european countries. Isnt this reinvesting in your business? Also spending (or donating) money lowers your taxes by lowering your earnings.
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