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Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by skybrian »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #50
samsquire wrote: post #2

I use the zero clause licence for my all my work because it just removes all the overhead of using my code. I think (please correct my understanding) zero clause BSD can be embedded in a GPL project too, it just becomes one-way included, subsumed into the GPL project and then under the GPL licence. (Relicenced) Could the author of HTMX explain their reasoning for changing the licence? I am curious?

It was mainly as a joke, but I wanted to remove the attribution clauses, they just seemed dumb for a single-file javascript library that was probably going to be minimized anyway, where are you supposed to stick the license?

Some companies are careful to include all the libraries' licenses when minimizing JavaScript code. There are tools to do it. But it seems wasteful, so it's great that you removed the requirement.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by macintux »

endisneigh wrote: post #68
macintux wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reputational damage is difficult to recover from.

That’s not relevant to the question of “what’s wrong with mongodb?” It seems folks just regurgitate memes without any understanding of the current product.

I thought "I can't speak to its current state" explained that I could not, in fact, speak to its current state.

But when it comes to databases, which are often the single most important part of an architecture, you'll find that many people are less forgiving of old sins, especially when Postgres now has native JSON support.

Much like I won't trust Uber with my location, or Google with my email, I won't trust Mongo with my data.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by bombcar »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #32
isoprophlex wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolute madman Should have gone for the "do whatever the fuck you want" license though

i went to berkeley so i have a soft spot for BSD (even though BSD0 technically isn't derived from BSD)

0BSD scares a lot less people than the various "public domain" or "wtf" licenses, let me tell you.

Lawyers don't like things they don't recognize.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by pgeorgi »

somat wrote: post #70
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile someone was using my late brother's name and face(in a list of supposed "vaccine casualties". My brother died from heart failure after lifelong illness, age 39) to spread vile antivaxx/protrump stuff. All reports denied. It was glaringly obvious she was a paid misinfo troll.

Just a question, I don't pay much attention to politics, are the two related? are anti vaxers pro trump? The vaccine was developed on Trumps watch. I figured it was just like any other boss, takes all the credit if it works. desperately tries to shift blame if it does not.

There's some correlation, and while Trump tried to take credit for Operation Warp Speed for a while[0], he distanced himself from everything related to "Covid is a threat" (including "it needs vaccines") when the tide shifted in his voter base and they went fiercely antivax, antidistancing, antilockdown, ...

[0] the process was pretty much the same speed for non-participants in non-participant countries, but okay: his administration made it a priority. Gold star for you!

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by endisneigh »

macintux wrote: post #72
endisneigh wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not relevant to the question of “what’s wrong with mongodb?” It seems folks just regurgitate memes without any understanding of the current product.

I thought "I can't speak to its current state" explained that I could not, in fact, speak to its current state. But when it comes to databases, which are often the single most important part of an architecture, you'll find that many people are less forgiving of old sins, especially when Postgres now has native JSON support. Much like I won't trust Uber with my location, or Google with my email, I won't trust Mongo wi…

Why even reply if you don’t know what you’re talking about in terms of current mongo? Not sure what Postgres or Uber or Google even has to do with this.

FYI using mongo is more than simply wanting a json interface.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by bombcar »

somat wrote: post #70
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile someone was using my late brother's name and face(in a list of supposed "vaccine casualties". My brother died from heart failure after lifelong illness, age 39) to spread vile antivaxx/protrump stuff. All reports denied. It was glaringly obvious she was a paid misinfo troll.

Just a question, I don't pay much attention to politics, are the two related? are anti vaxers pro trump? The vaccine was developed on Trumps watch. I figured it was just like any other boss, takes all the credit if it works. desperately tries to shift blame if it does not.

It amuses me, personally, seeing the "antivax" crowd quickly being equalized to all the other various "bad" people - 20 years ago, there was a strong but quiet "antivax" crowd and it was definitely not made up of Trump or even R-leaning people. It was quite the "hippy liberal progressive" if you had to qualify it.

But then again, twenty years ago you had all sorts of political positions you could take, now everything is simply binary. You have no agency.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by lmeyerov »

markski wrote: post #74
lmeyerov wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

may you never have to maintain production code...

i do. what now?

may you and the people relying on you never have to rely on the maintainers taking things more seriously than they've shown themselves to in their public positioning
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