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Ask HN: Help me solve a dilemma, study in the US or take a job in the EU?

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Re: Ask HN: Help me solve a dilemma, study in the US or take a job in the EU?

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Post by ziddoap »

Podgajski wrote: post #27
ziddoap wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I'm deciding between X and Y, here are some of my specific concerns, anyone chime in?" "You might die, you're not in control of the future, do what you want" Neat list of platitudes, not really helpful here.

Sorry, but they are right. Fear is what limits us and fear is what drives our decision-making. If you have no fear, decisions are much easier and you don’t regret anything. Having no fear means no you’re going to die one day and all your decisions, end up to a lump of nothing.

They can be perfectly correct, and also not helpful at all in answering the question. Like right now.

Re: Ask HN: Help me solve a dilemma, study in the US or take a job in the EU?

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Post by Denote6737 »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #24

The us is the greatest country in earth for risk taking, failing and then succeeding. If you see yourself having that in you, by all means us is the only way. If you want to just chill and not have high highs but just let the govt take care of you, go to Europe.

This is honest an American centric attitude.

to flip it on it's head. If you get ill or injured in the us you could be more than the $20K in debt for hospital bills. Whereas Europe has healthcare that will not take away everything you have. Also there is the fact that America is extremely anti-immigration at the moment.

Re: Ask HN: Help me solve a dilemma, study in the US or take a job in the EU?

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Post by donohoe »

I would absolutely get the qualification - especially under the circumstances you describe. You can get by without it, but it will close off many great opportunities if you don’t have it.

It positions you inside the US and may make it easier to work here initially. Salaries here are much higher than EU, and opportunities much better imho. You can always move to EU later, and be in a much stronger position.

Background: from Ireland, moved to US. No college degree.

Re: Ask HN: Help me solve a dilemma, study in the US or take a job in the EU?

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Post by ghaff »

caddemon wrote: post #12
reacharavindh wrote: post #2

It comes down to preferences and priorities. The decision is personal. Here are some aids. US: + once you finish education, and if you start employment in tech sector, you get to make more money(I’d even dare to say more than 2x, considering taxes, geography etc). + for the tech sector, US is where the hotness is. More opportunities, fuel for ambition. + while single and young, US can get you a lot of disposable inco…

I think the lifestyle part depends a lot on where in the US OP would end up. Places like Boston and NYC are not car-dependent at all and most people you will meet are a normal weight and have a decent diet. There is also a ton of cultural diversity within NYC and lots of amazing food (especially if you have disposable income). Boston has many students and postdocs coming from all over, so in an academic circle you wi…

In general though, accessing nature from even those cities that are relatively well-situated to nice natural areas mostly requires either leaning on friends who do have cars or belonging to college outing clubs that organize trips.

Re: Ask HN: Help me solve a dilemma, study in the US or take a job in the EU?

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Post by paulcole »

sjhdjshdjskhds wrote: post #4

Thinking too much about keywords. Let go of keywords. Understand you will die one day. Not as a concept. But as the truth. Keywords doesn't matter. Resume doesn't matter. Do what you really want to do. Don't think too much about future. You are not in control of it. Don't analyse too much. It's a scam by your egoic mind. Just do what do you want to do. Where will you choose to go if you don't survive 1 more year? Go…

> Where will you choose to go if you don't survive 1 more year?

If you live every day like it’s your last you’re going to be wrong a lot.

You’re not in complete control of your future but if you ignore the effects of your decisions today, you’re doing your future self a big disservice.

Re: Ask HN: Help me solve a dilemma, study in the US or take a job in the EU?

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Post by arp242 »

throwup238 wrote: post #33

Go get your degree. Immigrating to anywhere else in the Western world basically requires an undergraduate degree and if you don’t get permanent residence and a path to citizenship in Germany you may be locked out completely due to a tough job market. US University scholarships for undergrad are also harder to get once you’ve aged out of the standard path so it may be now or never. What happens after the degree will n…

Yes, this. Even if we assume that a degree is worthless for the sake of the argument, it's never "worthless" if you ever plan to migrate, from any country to any country really.

And degrees from Asian universities are often ranked lower or not accepted at all. I don't know what the situation is like for computer science, but my Indonesian ex had a six year university degree but that wasn't accepted in any Western countries for immigration or employment. Is there a good reason for that? I don't know – my expertise in veterinary science is basically zero, but the clinic where she worked didn't seem that different from Western clinics that I've seen, so I'm somewhat inclined to say "no".

Re: Ask HN: Help me solve a dilemma, study in the US or take a job in the EU?

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Post by 698969 »

throwup238 wrote: post #33

Go get your degree. Immigrating to anywhere else in the Western world basically requires an undergraduate degree and if you don’t get permanent residence and a path to citizenship in Germany you may be locked out completely due to a tough job market. US University scholarships for undergrad are also harder to get once you’ve aged out of the standard path so it may be now or never. What happens after the degree will n…

> I say this as someone who got a GC

Were you on an F1 visa or something else?

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