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LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Post by flexagoon »

jpc0 wrote: post #239
flexagoon wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if I'm using a Unifi UDM router and all of my IoT devices are on a separate VLAN and the firewall prevents them from initializing connections to any other devices on the local network?

> "But I keep an eye on my stuff" what about the 5billion other users in the world? And I concider thr UDM to be IOT in and of itself but that is arguably an opinion not objectively true

> what about the 5billion other users in the world?

Okay? I'm not sure how it affects me. Perhaps the people who don't "keep an eye on their stuff" are the ones who shouldn't get IoT devices, it's weird to say that nobody should get them

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Post by say_it_as_it_is »

Johnie wrote: post #222
say_it_as_it_is wrote: post #211

The router was misreporting network activity. The machine wasn't sending 3.7GB a day. It says so in the article.

That is incorrectly reported.

No, it's not.

> In a follow-up post a day after his initial Tweet, Johnie noted “inaccuracy in the ASUS router tool,”

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Post by checkyoursudo »

dotancohen wrote: post #235
paledot wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How far we have come. Back in my day, a program could only crash a few thousand times a second.

To err is human. To really screw things up we had to invent microcontrollers.

It is amazing how far we have come. On my own, I can only really screw up a few times per day, unless I am really trying. On a really, really bad day, maybe a few dozen times? How inefficient.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Post by xory »

According to UniFi, my LG washer and dryer have each used 15.9MB in the last month. LG Dishwasher used 3.8MB. I keep all IOT devices like these on client-isolated WiFi on their own VLAN with a speed limit of 250Kbps. They don’t have access to all the bandwidth they can eat, so they can’t participate meaningfully in a DDOS attack when compromised. 250Kbps is enough for “laundry is done” and “grill is pre-heated” push notifications to squeak through.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Post by jpc0 »

flexagoon wrote: post #241
jpc0 wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "But I keep an eye on my stuff" what about the 5billion other users in the world? And I concider thr UDM to be IOT in and of itself but that is arguably an opinion not objectively true

> what about the 5billion other users in the world? Okay? I'm not sure how it affects me. Perhaps the people who don't "keep an eye on their stuff" are the ones who shouldn't get IoT devices, it's weird to say that nobody should get them

You are reinforcing a market driven by incorrect principles, it's got nothing to do with you. You are voting with your money and you are voting for something that shouldn't exist in the way it exists.

Easiest way to be a revolutionary is to not do something in this case. The market will self correct if you show them it's wrong. At this point you, an informed technical user, are doing a disservice to the uninformed public by continuing to support products that are arguably evil by design.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Post by lathiat »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #200
lathiat wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the same WiFi network yes you can - it uses the same MAC on the same SSID. Remembers the "random" MAC after the first connection (and if you first connected to the networks before they added MAC randomisation in iOS14, it "remembers" the actual MAC of the device, so you didn't have compatability issues after the iOS14 upgrade). So you can't use it to track devices between multiple SSIDs including when scanning for…

You misread the question.

Yep, you're right. Agree with the other post - the randomly generated MACs have no manufacturer info.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Post by doubleg72 »

nubinetwork wrote: post #232
yakz wrote: post #46

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My Ubiquiti UniFi UDM is not good at device identification. It's kind of annoying because I have this big list of devices on the network and it's peppered with devices that I know don't exist. I'd appreciate it if it said something like "Maybe iPad Air", instead of just "iPad Pro 2nd Gen" when I know no such device is on my network.

Cisco ISE thinks all iPhones are FreeBSD.

That’s because your profiling is not set up correctly

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Post by tunesmith »

tunesmith wrote: post #234
winrid wrote: post #193

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Having a little UPS handy might be useful if you have power outages. You could just plug the machine into it to unlock it. Ridiculous, but an idea.

Definitely trying this. Brought our UPS to the hotel to charge it up.

Update: it worked! We were able to save our sopping filthy clothes. ;-)
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