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AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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AI runs on electricity, which we can produce a joule directly of for much cheaper than we can produce a joule of food to feed a human on. This is a fundamental consequence of thermodynamics. It will eventually require us to ask ourselves whether we are willing to arbitrarily prioritize our own species over the cheaper to run alternative.

We human beings, however, have both the first mover advantage and a natural instinct to preserve both ourselves and our ingroup. So I don't ultimately see this law as being hard to pass. Enforcing it is another issue, but mostly also solvable issue via financial bounty systems.

Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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I too remember 2017 and headlines about millions upon millions of people being replaced by robots around 2025. I even saw videos of little bots peforming the job of baristas, trucks self driving, and all sorts of other crazy things. Not that they are not doable but you know, they are difficult to implement by people that have no clue how things work, let alone how humans interact.

They underestimate the difficulty of the technology, which does not mean they overestimate the impact that technology can have.

Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Realistic view: Unemployment is actually at an all time low despite centuries of industrialization, automation, etc. AI technology is becoming a commodity at a rapid rate. OpenAI has some nice data moat but their tech is being copied left right and center and much of what they do has been replicated successfully by others; including some open source projects. I don't see OpenAI end up with all the profit here. AI is…

> much of what they do has been replicated successfully by others; including some open source projects This is true, except for GPT4 which no one has been able to even come close to in actual usage. As long as OpenAI maintains the lead by making the very best model available via a consumer-friendly interfaces, and via API, I'd wager they remain in the lead.

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Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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Cynical view: without new regulation in the area of AI, it will reduce the value of labor in many domains and completely eliminate the need for it in many others. Profits will go to companies like OpenAI, unemployment will rise and people will be left to fend for themselves, and it's exactly what's going to happen.

That is already an issue with technological progress. Peoples protesting because machines are more efficient and removing jobs. The issue being the profit of increased tech not being shared correctly among humanity.

This issue has not been solved. I am glad there are other peoples becoming aware of it with the rise of IA.

Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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If what I do as a seasoned software engineer becomes redundant because of "artificial intelligence", so be it. Then I'll need to learn more, which I am! I'm not in the business of stiffening technology like an oil baron.

I do understand that IP, for example using an actor's likeness via CGI+AI, is a very real issue that needs to be addressed.

Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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Cynical view: without new regulation in the area of AI, it will reduce the value of labor in many domains and completely eliminate the need for it in many others. Profits will go to companies like OpenAI, unemployment will rise and people will be left to fend for themselves, and it's exactly what's going to happen.

Realistic view: Unemployment is actually at an all time low despite centuries of industrialization, automation, etc. AI technology is becoming a commodity at a rapid rate. OpenAI has some nice data moat but their tech is being copied left right and center and much of what they do has been replicated successfully by others; including some open source projects. I don't see OpenAI end up with all the profit here. AI is…

> Unemployment is actually at an all time low despite centuries of industrialization, automation, etc.

You've got an interesting point there. But I'm wondering, isn't this mostly true for places like the US? Looking at it globally, it's a bit of a mixed bag: the global unemployment now is higher than 30 years ago, for example.

And about the industrialisation bit – I mostly agree with you, but let's not forget the hard fought battles for fair work conditions. We got to where we are because people stood up for their rights, not just because machines started doing the heavy lifting. The original post seems to nudge towards more rules or better safeguards with AI, kind of like what happened with the rise of factories. Are you not in favour of that?

Small sidenote: calling your own view 'realistic' might put some people off. It sort of implies other opinions are not, you know?

Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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post #26

If what I do as a seasoned software engineer becomes redundant because of "artificial intelligence", so be it. Then I'll need to learn more, which I am! I'm not in the business of stiffening technology like an oil baron. I do understand that IP, for example using an actor's likeness via CGI+AI, is a very real issue that needs to be addressed.

What exactly do you think you can learn at that point, that'd give you market value?

Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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post #26

If what I do as a seasoned software engineer becomes redundant because of "artificial intelligence", so be it. Then I'll need to learn more, which I am! I'm not in the business of stiffening technology like an oil baron. I do understand that IP, for example using an actor's likeness via CGI+AI, is a very real issue that needs to be addressed.

What exactly do you think you can learn at that point, that'd give you market value?

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Re: AI Will Transform the Global Economy. Let's Make Sure It Benefits Humanity

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AI runs on electricity, which we can produce a joule directly of for much cheaper than we can produce a joule of food to feed a human on. This is a fundamental consequence of thermodynamics. It will eventually require us to ask ourselves whether we are willing to arbitrarily prioritize our own species over the cheaper to run alternative. We human beings, however, have both the first mover advantage and a natural inst…

This is such a bizarre post. Tools are built to serve man. AI is just another tool. When mechanization replaced human labor there were no questions about prioritizing machines over people. This is no different. You have a distorted framing of the situation.
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