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Gasoline is cheap – but charging an EV is still cheaper

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Re: Gasoline is cheap – but charging an EV is still cheaper

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Only if you do this weird unrealistic math. Usually you need to install some infrastructure or deal with overnight slow charging. Thats if you even have a spot at home for this. Factor in your time hunting for a charger or waiting around for the car, depending on how you value your time, and maybe filling up the gas car for $40 in 3 minutes really is cheaper when you’ve accounted for all the inconvenience you might be saddled with.

Re: Gasoline is cheap – but charging an EV is still cheaper

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Only if you do this weird unrealistic math. Usually you need to install some infrastructure or deal with overnight slow charging. Thats if you even have a spot at home for this. Factor in your time hunting for a charger or waiting around for the car, depending on how you value your time, and maybe filling up the gas car for $40 in 3 minutes really is cheaper when you’ve accounted for all the inconvenience you might b…

Also in most countries of this world, charging an EV effectively means charging with a majority of energy derived from burning gasoline (or equivalents).

Re: Gasoline is cheap – but charging an EV is still cheaper

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Only if you do this weird unrealistic math. Usually you need to install some infrastructure or deal with overnight slow charging. Thats if you even have a spot at home for this. Factor in your time hunting for a charger or waiting around for the car, depending on how you value your time, and maybe filling up the gas car for $40 in 3 minutes really is cheaper when you’ve accounted for all the inconvenience you might b…

The article starts with the phrase “The price of home charging”

Re: Gasoline is cheap – but charging an EV is still cheaper

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I gas up a 40L tank once a month in climate where -15 happens for about two or three months. The tires are modest as the car doesn’t weigh much. The winter tires last a while and I just switched to my second pair of summers. Maintenance on a gas powered sedan is pretty minimal as my Honda is extremely reliable. I plan to run the car into the ground until the salt eats it alive. There’s a lot of sedans like mine in my neighbourhood and only few have been rushing to electric. I plan to get a Corolla hybrid next if that’s a thing.

Edit: my insurance is more than my gas bill but pretty cheap. All electric cars cost a lot more to insure here because of repair costs I’m guessing

Re: Gasoline is cheap – but charging an EV is still cheaper

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Only if you do this weird unrealistic math. Usually you need to install some infrastructure or deal with overnight slow charging. Thats if you even have a spot at home for this. Factor in your time hunting for a charger or waiting around for the car, depending on how you value your time, and maybe filling up the gas car for $40 in 3 minutes really is cheaper when you’ve accounted for all the inconvenience you might b…

I got a 40A outlet installed in my garage for $400 after a state rebate for EV chargers at home. In the past 2 years I've used a non-home charger 3 times, only on long distances road trips. I charge the car maybe twice a week, and when I do it takes literally 5 seconds as in walking by to plug it in. I would say an EV is far more cost and time effective for my circumstances.

Re: Gasoline is cheap – but charging an EV is still cheaper

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Only if you do this weird unrealistic math. Usually you need to install some infrastructure or deal with overnight slow charging. Thats if you even have a spot at home for this. Factor in your time hunting for a charger or waiting around for the car, depending on how you value your time, and maybe filling up the gas car for $40 in 3 minutes really is cheaper when you’ve accounted for all the inconvenience you might b…

(Disclaimer: The following applies to western Europe)

> Factor in your time hunting for a charger

Not really an issue, there is a large variety of apps to navigate you to a charger and check availiability beforehand.

> waiting around for the car

In my experience when on the highway the time you need for a break (toilet, eating, relaxing) is equal or less than the time the car needs to charge. If you are shopping, your car will be done charging before you finish.

> Usually you need to install some infrastructure or deal with overnight slow charging.

If you are just using the car in the city for short trips you only need to change every 1-2 weeks. In that case you can just go to a quick charge station which many gas stations are installing now in paralell to their pumps.

The problem I see right now: While consumer prices are 0.3€/kWh at home, quick chargers demand 0.65€/kWh, which is insane.

Re: Gasoline is cheap – but charging an EV is still cheaper

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BS article, lots of frameing; You have to look at the full picture, doesnt make sense to just zoom in on one part of the equation. E.g. doesn't take into account the energy that you have to invest to charge your car (as the charge gets higher, the amount of energy needed to keep filling rises as well), Solar panels are NOT free, EVs need to charge more and it would be fair to include extra miles that are made to find a charger that actually works (It is said only 25% works) let alone higher costs due to higher failure rates (see the German TUV reliability index).

I will happily keep driving my diesel. The people I know will only keep driving their EV until people have to start paying roadtax for them.

Re: Gasoline is cheap – but charging an EV is still cheaper

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post #3

Only if you do this weird unrealistic math. Usually you need to install some infrastructure or deal with overnight slow charging. Thats if you even have a spot at home for this. Factor in your time hunting for a charger or waiting around for the car, depending on how you value your time, and maybe filling up the gas car for $40 in 3 minutes really is cheaper when you’ve accounted for all the inconvenience you might b…

Also in most countries of this world, charging an EV effectively means charging with a majority of energy derived from burning gasoline (or equivalents).

In most countries where EV adoption is progressing you can count on a turnover of electric power generation from fossil to non-fossil sources. As that happens, EVs become greener and greener. Gas cars are still going to be gas cars.
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