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Re: Asus Zenbook Duo 2024

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Post by bdavbdav »

nolongerthere wrote: post #61
jitl wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I initially got a $100 one, but ended upgrading to an Asus model with a touch screen and built in battery. It can run everything (video and charging the display) over a single USB-C cable. I used to travel with it and sometimes a gaming desktop, but these days I use it around the house whenever I need a display & mouse for a server that doesn’t have a dedicated monitor. Just today I did a BIOS update with it. This is…

A regular 15.6” 1080p monitor from a no name brand costs 1/3 the price, crazy that touch adds so much to the price. Also you should ID affiliate links.

I suspect the colour accuracy, viewing angles, display tech (probably VA) from a no name make a fair bit of difference too.

Re: Asus Zenbook Duo 2024

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Post by eggy »

jph wrote: post #9

I just saw this in the wild, and talked with the user, who programs 3D AR/VR content. I saw the dual screen in use with the top screen for a VR scene and the bottom screen for code. The user's interactions among the two screens and keyboard were seamless. The screen colors were vibrant and rich, even in bright light. Based on what I saw, I would definitely try it for typical office use or even for typical website pro…

I have an Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 16, and I love it. I use it for personal work in graphics, 3D CAD, animation (Blender), and music, and for work. the dual screen (smaller touch panel below) has really changed the way I work. The battery life is a lot better than I thought given I was planning on using it plugged in all the time. I have had this in Saudi with me for 8 months in the last 2 years, heat and all, and all over, for office work, field work, airports, etc. and not a glitch yet. Dedicated graphics card, 32mb of memory, and a great keyboard (I usually use a Kinesis Advantage 2) for a notebook (reminiscent of my Lenovo T430u keyboard from 2012). It took a while to get used to the touchpad to the right, but it works. I find myself trying to do the opposite when I switch notebooks now - touching the right side of center touchpads and vice versa. I am looking for the best MR headset to come out that I can work with some sort of chorded keyboard or other less bulky input device and still see my surroundings without going blind.

Re: Asus Zenbook Duo 2024

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Post by dspillett »

d3vmax wrote: post #149
dspillett wrote: post #38

I have an earlier DUO model, one with the half-screen between the main and the keyboard. While shopping for a replacement for a laptop that had been dropped a few too many times, manic me bought it as a gimmick and when it arrived I feared it would just be that. I have found it genuinely useful in various ways though: during dev with various small utility tabs on the lower screen, messaging on bottom screen with full…

I have the Zyphreus Duo ( https://rog.asus.com/in/laptops/rog-zephyrus/rog-zephyrus-du... ) with the touch screen in between the screen and the keyboard. Its perfect for todo/whatsapp/zoom/file explorer and I have an external screen/keyboard/mouse (so in total 2.5 screens). Perfect desktop replacement and a good gaming laptop. Mobility is limited due to battery life but it suits my needs.

Mine is from the much lower-spec (and appropriately cheaper) ZenBook DUO range. The battery life is pretty darn good until I plug in the external screen, and still better than many laptops even then. It isn't often I'm away from a power socket for and needing to work, but when I am, it can be for a fair few hours. Gaming isn't something I find time for these days, so this model is much better value for this use pattern.

Re: Asus Zenbook Duo 2024

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Post by csdvrx »

valval wrote: post #148
Fluorescence wrote: post #45

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> However, I saw a lot of graphics lag and chop in the VR scene rotations Was it a review/pre-release unit? Dave2D's review 4 days ago said he wasn't allowed to benchmark it because they haven't finished optimising the drivers. I wouldn't rush to performance judgements just yet.

I would — frankly nothing exists in the Intel/Nvidia line to compete with M3 in terms of efficiency. This laptop will either not run the necessary software or run out of battery in less than two hours doing it. More than likely both simultaneously.

Efficiency != performance

Some of us care about absolute top performance, and don't care about the battery life

Re: Asus Zenbook Duo 2024

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Post by csdvrx »

hmottestad wrote: post #123
eloisant wrote: post #112

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Or just buy a portable monitor (i.e. Asus Zenscreen). It's bigger (15 inch), cheaper (less than $150), easier to use (just one USB-C cable). And if we compare it to the Zenbook Duo, when your laptop becomes obsolete you can just buy any new laptop and still use your portable monitor.

I would also go with a portable monitor. Just keep in mind that a lot of them have quite low resolution, low brightness, poor colour accuracy and that some of them still need a power brick (if they require more than 15 watts).

My portable InnoCN 4k OLED disagrees.

Re: Asus Zenbook Duo 2024

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Post by dspillett »

abdusco wrote: post #42
dspillett wrote: post #37

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I've got a 14" lesser-named unit that does very well. Matches my Asus's main screen well enough and is far cheaper (you can get them at ~£80 on offer fairly regularly), works nicely off just USB-C (though has HDMI so it can be used that way instead with USB for just power). Drains the laptop's battery noticeably of course, but if I'm in a position to use it I'm usually near a plug.

Where can I find this monitor? I have a 13-inch 2.5K monitor and its DPI is too for its size and macOS's fractional scaling doesn't work well. So I'm looking for better options.

As LegitShady said, Amazon, or most other electronics sellers (eBuyer, etc.). The one I have is 14" 1080P (matching my laptop's main screen very closely) from “ARZOPA” but there are several similar on the market (I suspect at least one is exactly the same with a different label…). As you can see from https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B09TVVWFR9 the prices of these things bounce around almost weekly so shop carefully. There are sometimes “vouchers” that don't show up on CamelCamelCamel, I got an extra tenner off at a point when the screen was at ~£90.

There are also a variety of different attachment options, from no attaching to your machine (which I find preferable) to those that attach to your laptop and add two screens, one either side.

Watch out of fly-by-night kickstarter projects in this area, there have been a few in recent years including a monster that promised to add three monitors to your laptop (left, right, top) which I'm surprised people were taken in by (I found the extra weight of one less than convenient, even when sat at a desk, never mind three, hence currently using a stand-alone external screen).

Re: Asus Zenbook Duo 2024

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Post by WillAdams »

mkesper wrote: post #147
WillAdams wrote: post #75

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No stylus support on the external monitor for the most part though. The only one I'm aware of w/ a decent stylus which is reasonably affordable (the new Wacom One) is not that great in terms of pixel density (don't want to compete w/ their Cintiq line).

Xppen has some really good graphic displays.

Are they compatible with Wacom EMR styluses?

My current setup has my devices all using the same pen technology, which is wonderfully convenient --- I can switch from note taking on my Note 10+ or Kindle Scribe to drawing/annotating on my Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 or the Wacom One attached to my MacBook.

Re: Asus Zenbook Duo 2024

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Post by htk »

seb1204 wrote: post #138
LegitShady wrote: post #50

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My laptop lets me connect my $100 external portable monitor to my computer via usb-c. I can't fold it in crazy ways like this but I have an IPS panel and dual monitors and it only cost me $100. And when I don't need to have dual monitors I just put the second one in my bag, or leave it home.

Can you please share a link/name of your monitor? I'm curious

This one[1] is more expensive, but it's 4k, 17" and usb-c. I use it daily with my MBP 16" and it matches the PPI pretty well. And I recommend to pair it with this.[2]

[1]https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPKe3Go [2]https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqiWbKy

Re: Asus Zenbook Duo 2024

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Post by skrebbel »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #121
skrebbel wrote: post #114

Vaguely related question for the gurus: are all Windows (/ Linux) laptops still hopelessly behind Macbooks in terms of speed? (since Apple announced the M1 and followups I mean) I’m trying to figure out if a laptop like this one is worth the lower cpu speed

^low effort troll comment that breaks HN guidelines. You could have googled this and found your answer in 5 seconds(it's not something you need "gurus" for), instead of using your comment as an opportunity to call anything that's not M1 MacBook as being "hopelessly underpowered" but masquerading it as a question.

I disagree. When I google this I get content that mostly has an agenda. I’m not deep into this subject matter so I don’t know who to trust. On HN however, I get knowledgeable replies from people who enjoy this topic (thanks everyone!).

For extra context, I’m a Windows fan and I currently use a Surface Pro. I’d prefer to keep using Windows (even despite the ad/telemetry crap MS is pulling) but not if an M3 cuts my Elixir/webpack build times in half wrt a new & fast Windows laptop.

So no, nothing here was “masquerading” and you need to stop making such negative assumptions about people’s motivations.

The replies tell me the difference isn’t that big at all, which is great to know. Thing is, when the M1 was announced HN and twitter and other geek sites were absolutely plastered with stories about how impossibly much faster it was, so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to wonder whether that’s still the case.

Re: Asus Zenbook Duo 2024

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Post by thfuran »

tastyminerals2 wrote: post #158

I never understood why they keep manufacturing these platform locked monstrosities. I bet no Linux distro will properly support it. Once I made a mistake and bought MS Surface Book, which now is a magnesium brick that doesn't last a few hours without a power socket. I'd rather bought an intel based desktop for that money, at least it would age better. I find it strange to seriously consider any intel laptop these day…

What percentage of laptop users do you think ever even consider installing a different OS?
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