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Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#81

Please YouTube, make things even worse by embedding ads into the video itself, like twitch does. After I had to watch the same ad over and over for the new Zelda, then Aquaman 2 , I eventually managed to delete my twitch account and stop losing my time there. Hopefully will be the same with youtube, I didn't watch a single ad in 12 years, I don't understand how people does it.without sponsorblock and ublock, youtube…

Honestly, this is why I got rid of YouTube premium when their prices increased. The amount of ads reduced my YouTube usage to only videos that I "really" wanted to watch. Try turning off your blocker if you want to decrease your consumption :-)

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#82
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Yea, I caved in too finally a while ago. I just did the math, I watch X hours of YouTube a month, I value my time at X€/hour. It's cheaper to pay than for me to suffer through over 30 minutes of ads a month.

I would prefer to pay for a better Adblocker. I won't let YouTube blackmail me with ads. I also don't trust Google/YouTube with my credit card data (had 15+ fraudulent charges on Google play one day, got the money back but zero explanation how this could have happened with 2fa) so as long as they don't support a secure payment method it's a big no anyway.

Google is literally one of the world's biggest ad companies.

They're constantly toeing the line of messing with ad blockers and letting people use them. It seems that someone has seen ad engagement go down enough to start doing stuff like this.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#83

The amount of ads they started adding in the last months or a year at this point is sick. Basically two at the start of every video and often not skippable. It coincided with increased offers for YouTube premium. Honestly I'd pay at this point, but know it's not going to be enough sooner or later. They'll add premium with less ads for half the price, then they'll increase the price gradually until the premium with ad…

The Ads you see are only because the creator enabled them for monetization AFAIK. There are many channels without Ads.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#84

Please YouTube, make things even worse by embedding ads into the video itself, like twitch does. After I had to watch the same ad over and over for the new Zelda, then Aquaman 2 , I eventually managed to delete my twitch account and stop losing my time there. Hopefully will be the same with youtube, I didn't watch a single ad in 12 years, I don't understand how people does it.without sponsorblock and ublock, youtube…

The Ads you see are only because the creator enabled them for monetization AFAIK. There are many channels without Ads.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#85

1) Install Freetube client ( https://freetubeapp.io ). 2) Install Privacy Redirect browser extension ( https://github.com/SimonBrazell/privacy-redirect#get ). 3) In the browser extension's "Advanced" settings tab, enable the "Use Freetube over Invidious when possible" switch ( e.g. https://addons.mozilla.org/user-media/previews/full/241/2414... ).

It doesn’t have sponsorblock. So it’s still worse than the website.

Yes it does, I use it daily

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#86

Please YouTube, make things even worse by embedding ads into the video itself, like twitch does. After I had to watch the same ad over and over for the new Zelda, then Aquaman 2 , I eventually managed to delete my twitch account and stop losing my time there. Hopefully will be the same with youtube, I didn't watch a single ad in 12 years, I don't understand how people does it.without sponsorblock and ublock, youtube…

Premium + Sponsorblock is well worth my money.

Do you think Premium will be ad free forever?

I doubt it, because once they get enough people paying for Premium, they can make even more money by adding ads to Premium.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#87

Please YouTube, make things even worse by embedding ads into the video itself, like twitch does. After I had to watch the same ad over and over for the new Zelda, then Aquaman 2 , I eventually managed to delete my twitch account and stop losing my time there. Hopefully will be the same with youtube, I didn't watch a single ad in 12 years, I don't understand how people does it.without sponsorblock and ublock, youtube…

Paying because a service is making itself suck on purpose to create “fake value” to make you relent to their suckage is objectionable business practice, and all those that support YouTube by buying premium need to think a little deeper about the kind of future their are supporting with their money: you’re paying for pain relief instead of innovation and, frankly, condemning the Internet.

You are missing something key. There is a very popular strategy that YouTube and Uber and a bunch of other companies followed. If you have a product with network effects you don't sell it for what it's worth right away. First, you heavily subsidize the price to maximize your user base, only then do you start charging what the product was worth all along. You got convinced that the unreasonably good initial offering is the norm and resent the inevitable switch to the sustainable real offering. That makes sense, a lot of people will be in your boat as that is basically the entire point of the strat, get you to join the nework by giving you a false impression of the service / product. I'm sure there is some greed there too, but it's not fair to ignore this part of it. Yes, they are making the service worse in order to make more money, that is a fact, however I think some / most of that is needed to cover costs and was planned from the beginning. The argument should be what fraction is needed. Zero, as you seem to imply, seems clearly too low to me. Regardless, it seems best to evaluate a service based on how much you currently get from it for the price (and relative to current competition) rather than to what you used to get for the old price. I get so much value from YouTube that I do not mind paying for Premium. Yes, it is now a much worse deal than before. I think it is still a very good deal.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

#89

YouTube makes money by selling access to your eyeballs. The ad / Adblock arms race is amusing and all, but the only winning move is not to play. Take your attention someplace else. This is how you win.

This is why I pay for YouTube. The content provides decent value and I don’t want to see ads.

What will you do when YT Premium gets ads too?
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