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Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by happytiger »

piva00 wrote: post #68
alphabettsy wrote: post #63

I use Adblock, but also believe creators should be paid and YouTube itself cannot exist for free. If you’re not willing to pay and also don’t want ads, what’s the solution?

I was willing to pay for "no ads", YouTube had the perfect product for me, Premium Lite, which I gladly paid for 2 years until I got an email in October: > Subject: Your Premium Lite membership will be discontinued > Thank you for being one of our first Premium Lite members. > We’re writing to let you know that after October 25, 2023, we will no longer offer your version of Premium Lite. While we understand this may…

Same. I really started to dislike Google after this move.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by happytiger »

nomilk wrote: post #50

Random question: has anyone here ever purchased something they found via a youtube ad? I never have. Approximately 100% of youtube ads I've seen are for harmful , time-wasting, unhealthy, mediocre, scammy products/services. They also tend to be blastingly-loud, and somewhat anxiety-inducing. I've never seen an interesting or informative one. Why doesn't youtube put effort into ad quality and relevance, rather than ho…

In fact I have a list of products that show in ads that I make sure to never purchase. I assume that if you have to advertise hard to sell your product you probably suck. Products that are amazing are sold by recommendation from enthusiastic customers.

I know people may not agree, but it’s been pretty effective for me.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by happytiger »

antfarm wrote: post #39

If you’re not paying for it, you are the product. Simple as that.

No, you’re still the product if you pay. In fact you are better product.

You’re just verified product and worth more to advertisers and data brokers because you’re card verified and likely legit. With love, this is antiquated thinking and no longer true.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by happytiger »

shilgapira wrote: post #27
ec109685 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube Premium exists to remove ads.

I pay for YouTube Premium, but let's not kid ourselves. Eventually we'll both pay and be made to watch ads.

Somebody has ridden this ride before…

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by Timshel »

alphabettsy wrote: post #63

I use Adblock, but also believe creators should be paid and YouTube itself cannot exist for free. If you’re not willing to pay and also don’t want ads, what’s the solution?

The solution is a different platform, I don't trust Google, I will not pay (which entail giving additionnal private information) an advertising platform.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by nomilk »

happytiger wrote: post #72
nomilk wrote: post #50

Random question: has anyone here ever purchased something they found via a youtube ad? I never have. Approximately 100% of youtube ads I've seen are for harmful , time-wasting, unhealthy, mediocre, scammy products/services. They also tend to be blastingly-loud, and somewhat anxiety-inducing. I've never seen an interesting or informative one. Why doesn't youtube put effort into ad quality and relevance, rather than ho…

In fact I have a list of products that show in ads that I make sure to never purchase. I assume that if you have to advertise hard to sell your product you probably suck. Products that are amazing are sold by recommendation from enthusiastic customers. I know people may not agree, but it’s been pretty effective for me.

> I have a list of products that show in ads that I make sure to never purchase.

That's hardcore, I like it.

I don't think it's black and white regarding need to advertise. Good products can advertise too, it's just that they tend to be tasteful or even inspiring, informative, imaginative, helpful or have some other positive effect on the viewer. I never perceive those qualities in youtube ads. (to be fair, the vast majority of ads outside of youtube also fail to exhibit those qualities).

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by 1234554321a »

biglyburrito wrote: post #13

1) Install Freetube client ( https://freetubeapp.io ). 2) Install Privacy Redirect browser extension ( https://github.com/SimonBrazell/privacy-redirect#get ). 3) In the browser extension's "Advanced" settings tab, enable the "Use Freetube over Invidious when possible" switch ( e.g. https://addons.mozilla.org/user-media/previews/full/241/2414... ).

It doesn’t have sponsorblock. So it’s still worse than the website.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by ghusto »

alphabettsy wrote: post #63

I use Adblock, but also believe creators should be paid and YouTube itself cannot exist for free. If you’re not willing to pay and also don’t want ads, what’s the solution?

Thank you for the precisely articulated ultimate point in this debate I have with people about copyright, though my conclusion is different to what you're (probably?) alluding too.

My conclusion is: Good.

Traditionally, storytellers and musicians were an important part of society. They were the medium through which ideas and even information would spread. Then came troupes, then came middlemen, then came companies, then came corporations. Each step along the way, the artist was less about her art, and more about the business of making art.

This can be acceptable to many, and I won't knock anyone who enjoys a good Hollywood blockbuster. What I would argue though, is that the pure artist who did it for the art first, and the business second, made better art.

In conclusion; fuck Google, let that dumpster fire burn out.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by thinkingemote »

nomilk wrote: post #50

Random question: has anyone here ever purchased something they found via a youtube ad? I never have. Approximately 100% of youtube ads I've seen are for harmful , time-wasting, unhealthy, mediocre, scammy products/services. They also tend to be blastingly-loud, and somewhat anxiety-inducing. I've never seen an interesting or informative one. Why doesn't youtube put effort into ad quality and relevance, rather than ho…

Ads work on the brain on many levels. Often affecting us below conscious recall. They work on us even if we don't like them.

For example a feel good video from a car company won't make us go out and buy the car. That's not the intention. The aim is not for you to click through right then and spend. The intention is about feeling of the brand. So maybe in 2 years time when you have forgotten the specific ad and are in a position of trading in your old car you will choose this brand of car compared to a similar one from a company that didn't advertise.

Ads are worse than we think. They work on many levels to manipulate us.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by glimshe »

antfarm wrote: post #39

If you’re not paying for it, you are the product. Simple as that.

I think many would agree to pay if they got the right value from it:

1) It's too expensive after they got rid of Youtube Premium Lite

2) Google still gets to track your watch history heavily, allowing advertisers to harass you through other Google properties

3) You still get sponsor segments in videos

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