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Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by herbst »

nomilk wrote: post #50

Random question: has anyone here ever purchased something they found via a youtube ad? I never have. Approximately 100% of youtube ads I've seen are for harmful , time-wasting, unhealthy, mediocre, scammy products/services. They also tend to be blastingly-loud, and somewhat anxiety-inducing. I've never seen an interesting or informative one. Why doesn't youtube put effort into ad quality and relevance, rather than ho…

I explicitly avoid products that happen to annoy me with forced video ads.

I have a whole list of companies in my head I will avoid as long as I don't forgot about them.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by hulitu »

nomilk wrote: post #50

Random question: has anyone here ever purchased something they found via a youtube ad? I never have. Approximately 100% of youtube ads I've seen are for harmful , time-wasting, unhealthy, mediocre, scammy products/services. They also tend to be blastingly-loud, and somewhat anxiety-inducing. I've never seen an interesting or informative one. Why doesn't youtube put effort into ad quality and relevance, rather than ho…

> Why doesn't youtube put effort into ad quality and relevance, rather than hostility toward users who quite naturally want to avoid grotesque influences.

Because the purpose of the ad is just to keep your brain busy for a period of _your_ time.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by dylan604 »

charcircuit wrote: post #42
dylan604 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we're well beyond TV 2.0. TV ads could never track you. Digital Cable knew everything about your viewing habits well before YT was invented though.

>TV ads could never track you. Digital Cable knew everything about your viewing habits well before YT was invented though. Nor do the web ads themselves. Similarly to how the TV provider can tell what ads you are viewing the ad network is what can tell.

TV Providers (we called them broadcasters in my day) have no idea how many people are watching. They relied on the guess work from Nielsen. So I'm not really sure what you're implying they can do.

It wasn't until digital cable boxes before they could start tracking your account watched what channel at what time on what box. Or at least what was being decoded on that device whether eyeballs saw it or not.

In other words, you're focused on entirely the wrong thing if you're being pedantic with "nor do the web ads themselves". Thanks, as if I was confused on the subject. We're all adults here and understand the video bits are not tracking but the code used to deliver them.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by herbst »

wodenokoto wrote: post #5

On my TV YouTube wouldn’t skip to video if ads didn’t load. One could say that’s an effective guard against an adblocker as you would just get a black screen for a minute. Of course you would also get a blank screen when the ad server wasn’t responding, because the ad server is not hooked up to the local cdn

This! Worse than unskippable ad breaks are high resolution ads that come with lag.

Sometimes a 20 second unskippable and turns out to take 60 seconds or more with lag and buffering. Even thought I don't have issues on the video itself.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by renegat0x0 »

biglyburrito wrote: post #13

1) Install Freetube client ( https://freetubeapp.io ). 2) Install Privacy Redirect browser extension ( https://github.com/SimonBrazell/privacy-redirect#get ). 3) In the browser extension's "Advanced" settings tab, enable the "Use Freetube over Invidious when possible" switch ( e.g. https://addons.mozilla.org/user-media/previews/full/241/2414... ).

I use also newpipe on phone. Requires installation of fdroid. It cannot be installed from Play store though.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by renegat0x0 »

nirui wrote: post #48

Ha! I just knew I won't need to waste money on a faster Internet to watch YouTube smoother. YouTube slows you down anyways. But in all seriousness: 1) YouTube can slow it down all you want, ban my account if you have to, I'll not remove my adblocker. 2) YouTube should really reconsider their business strategy, and charging their advertisers more. The total amount of the garbage ads from garbage publishers on their pl…

I fear that majority will not be as hardwilled. Majority decide trends. Money decide the outcome.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by herbst »

theshrike79 wrote: post #43
Gigachad wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I pay for YouTube. The content provides decent value and I don’t want to see ads.

Yea, I caved in too finally a while ago. I just did the math, I watch X hours of YouTube a month, I value my time at X€/hour. It's cheaper to pay than for me to suffer through over 30 minutes of ads a month.

I would prefer to pay for a better Adblocker. I won't let YouTube blackmail me with ads.

I also don't trust Google/YouTube with my credit card data (had 15+ fraudulent charges on Google play one day, got the money back but zero explanation how this could have happened with 2fa) so as long as they don't support a secure payment method it's a big no anyway.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by alx_the_new_guy »

nirui wrote: post #48

Ha! I just knew I won't need to waste money on a faster Internet to watch YouTube smoother. YouTube slows you down anyways. But in all seriousness: 1) YouTube can slow it down all you want, ban my account if you have to, I'll not remove my adblocker. 2) YouTube should really reconsider their business strategy, and charging their advertisers more. The total amount of the garbage ads from garbage publishers on their pl…

From what I've heared sort of around the block: Shitty ads actually pay more per view. Scam artists have rather fat margins and are more desperate to get their ads shown. IMO the __actual__ solution to youtube ads is unironically to buy premium (and use sponsorblock). Cheap enough and I personally find the experience of ads shoved down my throat actually degrading (so have been using adblockers). Probably would get those 5-10$ worth of ads not being shown in couple evenings/mornings while listening to stuff during commute. Alternatively, something like floatplane, but the the whole yt premuium costs like 3-5 channels on floatplane, and general lack of site-wide subscription tier is a deal-braker to me, so no.

Thing is, video production, storage and distributions are expensive af. There are little to no alternatives explicitly because, especially at small scale, the model is unsustainable. If youtube presumably keeps loosing money to google, there will be no youtube outside of paid tiers, or, indeed, something like floatplane.

Re: YouTube started slowing video buffer with adblock enabled

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Post by butz »

Some youtubers are uploading their videos to alternative websites, instances of Peertube network. Sure, you probably won't find that video there, but maybe it is time to reduce online video watching or at least start watching something different, something you chose, not the algorithm. Start with tilvids.com and makertube.net . Even archive.org has a lot of stuff to watch.
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