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Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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My rule for these types of appliances is hook up long enough to get any firmware updates and then unplug and wait and see if the machine functions normally, then it is likely to never see my network again. I suppose they could still use 4g but I doubt most companies will do that.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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LG washing machines are the bane of my existence today because we have a power outage that will last for quite a while, clothes inside the washer, in water, and a locked lid. So far I haven't any way to open the damn thing without taking a hammer to it.

ooof this is why I bought a generator after the last big outage. Well not unlucky enough to have clothes stuck in a washer but it was still damn cold for 2 days.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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LG washing machines are the bane of my existence today because we have a power outage that will last for quite a while, clothes inside the washer, in water, and a locked lid. So far I haven't any way to open the damn thing without taking a hammer to it.

Having a little UPS handy might be useful if you have power outages. You could just plug the machine into it to unlock it. Ridiculous, but an idea.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

#194

This should be illegal unless the data format is open, documented and user can turn it off or set their own endpoint or their preferred repairer.

Or you could just not buy one

Or if it's a good washer otherwise, just don't hook up the wifi. That's what I did with my bosch. VLAN is a good solution too.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems completely inexplicable. I don't care if it's a small percentage of my symmetric gigabit fiber, I only care why they supposedly need it and where it ends up. A phone number or a timestamp is a tiny amount of data. In the quaint olden days, you had to go out of your way to volunteer to be a part of some study to have any aspect of your activity recorded every few seconds 24/7 to be collected and analysed like…

The users did go out of their way to volunteer, by hooking the washing machine up to their network.

They did not. They went out of their way to buy a washing machine and maybe use some monitoring or alerting feature it offers. I decline to believe you do not know this.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

#196

My rule for these types of appliances is hook up long enough to get any firmware updates and then unplug and wait and see if the machine functions normally, then it is likely to never see my network again. I suppose they could still use 4g but I doubt most companies will do that.

The way I see it, it's a washing machine. It shouldn't need firmware updates.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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When cryptocurrency tumbling gets literal...

Edit to add: I also just realized I have an LG that does have wifi that I've never used, which may now get used for entirely different reasons...

I buy asus having a math bug or something, it is also possible those are constant retries on something failing. I put a pihole on my parents home network and in a month their roku had some stupid amount of blocked attempts, in the tens of thousands.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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For those who do not want WiFi on their appliances you still can get highly rated reasonably priced washing machines without WiFi, even from the companies that are putting WiFi in nearly everything. E.g., I recently bought an LG WM3400CW washing machine for $650. On Consumer Reports it is tied for 3rd on the front loader ratings list. The LG 3900 and 4000 are tied for #1 with overall scores of 87, then the 3400, 8900…

can't you just plug it in and never configure the wifi?

That’s not an option for me. I live in a rental unit in the SF Bay Area so the appliances are what they are. I cannot afford to buy because I was born into a disenfranchised generation. The LG washer/dryer I use removed all dials and most buttons for a “sleek” look so if I want simple settings such as “permanent press” for clothing beyond jeans and t-shirts I have to use the app to select “permanent press” mode. Otherwise I get “normal” which cooks my clothes. I get a notification on my watch when the cycle ends which is useful so I guess that’s nice.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My bad, thanks for the correction! You still can’t identify a specific device type based on the MAC address though, right?

On the same WiFi network yes you can - it uses the same MAC on the same SSID. Remembers the "random" MAC after the first connection (and if you first connected to the networks before they added MAC randomisation in iOS14, it "remembers" the actual MAC of the device, so you didn't have compatability issues after the iOS14 upgrade). So you can't use it to track devices between multiple SSIDs including when scanning for…

You misread the question.
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