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OpenD, a D language fork that is open to your contributions

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Re: OpenD, a D language fork that is open to your contributions

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Post by jeffparsons »

At least Walter, and presumably others in the D leadership, are active here. There's a good chance they will see your comments. This is just a reminder that they are human, too, they care a lot about D, and in my experience they are basically decent people who are trying their best.

Re: OpenD, a D language fork that is open to your contributions

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Post by LorenDB »

TillE wrote: post #9
Kranar wrote: post #7

D is such a sad case of how a good technical product can fail due to poor leadership and decision making. A language is more than just a compiler, it's also an ecosystem and a community. D's community is actually very welcoming but man, watch some of the DConf videos and Q&As on Youtube and it's cringe seeing key leaders talking down to people, or dismissing people's concerns, or just have this ego about themselves l…

I think the fundamental problem with D is much simpler than that, it's the technical context. D is a better C++, but it's not better enough to escape the gravitational pull of C++. Rust is sufficiently compelling, with its focus on memory safety.

Meanwhile Rust is noncompelling due to its syntax. It made a bunch of weird design choices (like putting class methods in separate `impl` blocks) that have ruined my chances of trying to use it for any personal projects.

Re: OpenD, a D language fork that is open to your contributions

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Post by bachmeier »

Kranar wrote: post #7

D is such a sad case of how a good technical product can fail due to poor leadership and decision making. A language is more than just a compiler, it's also an ecosystem and a community. D's community is actually very welcoming but man, watch some of the DConf videos and Q&As on Youtube and it's cringe seeing key leaders talking down to people, or dismissing people's concerns, or just have this ego about themselves l…

> Good luck to these guys on trying to bring life back to it, but frankly I think at this point most people have given up and moved on to alternatives like Rust, Nim, Zig, etc...

And back in 2015, folks were saying the same thing, but with different alternative languages. I remember twenty years ago when C++ was dead. Oh, and remember the good old days when Java was dead?

I'm not sure why programming language discussions always turn into quantitative statements that have no data, but fully support the commenter's position.

Re: OpenD, a D language fork that is open to your contributions

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Post by viraptor »

Kranar wrote: post #7

D is such a sad case of how a good technical product can fail due to poor leadership and decision making. A language is more than just a compiler, it's also an ecosystem and a community. D's community is actually very welcoming but man, watch some of the DConf videos and Q&As on Youtube and it's cringe seeing key leaders talking down to people, or dismissing people's concerns, or just have this ego about themselves l…

> D's community is actually very welcoming but man, watch some of the DConf videos...

Not welcoming for everyone apparently. I don't know much about D, beyond seeing a post from some dev rage quiting D every few months, due some people in the community being terrible and the leadership not stepping in to limit that.

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