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LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Our washing machine offers various programs between 30 minutes and 2 hours and 40 minutes. Yes, it's not hard to set an alarm, except the timing on the washing machine is unreliable (I've lost count of how many times I've set an alarn with a few minutes extra and still had to wait longer.) It would just be nice to have a little notification - making that chore 1% pleasanter. :)

They all make a sound when done, you could set up a SoC with a microphone to listen to it. Or monitor power draw. Many ways to do it externally.

Even easier than that: Amazon's Echo devices can be set up to detect beeps.

I have one in my kitchen, near the laundry room, and one in my home office. When things beep in that area, the one in the office says "Beep, beep." (I could have it do other stuff, but this was simple.)

It works for laundry. And the dishwasher. And the Instant Pot. And any other beepin' thing. It's just a remote beep detector.

(And if it detects beeping for 2 or more minutes, it notifies my phone, since that presumably means that my house is on fire.)

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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post #149

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Does it matter? It shouldn't be hogging bandwidth like this, that's a failure by itself regardless of whether there another failure state at play. Also, I'd have to question any washing machine that can generate 'massive amounts of error logs'. 3.7 G / Day is an insane amount of data.

a program running on a 480 megahertz microcontroller can quite reasonably crash a million times a second; even a single 80-character error log line would be 80 megabytes per second or 7 terabytes per day. and it would be reasonable to record more telemetry from a crash than a single line

Really megabytes or it's just a typo? If so. How 80 characters could possibly generate so much data?

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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post #34

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Siri set a timer for *looks at washer screen* minutes That's it. But tbh wish my smart speakers would learn all the appliance chimes instead.

My dryer will straight up lie to me and say “20 minutes” for anything between 0 and 60 minutes. I think it realizes the clothes are still too damp and just keeps running, but whatever differential equation it’s using to predict time remaining seems flawed.

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Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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post #38

Why hasn't anyone mentioned a botnet yet? Those devices are perfect targets for Mirai clones. (yes, you still cannot run a mailserver at home, currently because we live in the age of Internet of Shit).

This was the first thing that came to mind. Imagine a fleet of laundry machines each sending 3.7GB of data. That's the perfect way to run a DDOS, and nobody will ever notice.

Using a washing machine to launder data

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

#166

I'm not opposed to smart homes, I love being able to turn my lights on and off from across the room. But I don't know if I understand the use case for a networked washing machine.

Our washing machine and dryer are networked (Bosch). Current benefits are secondary reasons and I could live without them: - Notifications when done: Nice, but a beeper would work, too. - Select program via App, based on what I put into the machine: Occasionally useful when I'm not sure. Also, I can put in my wife's cloths and let her pick the correct program (I did that wrong once and we both don't want that to happ…

> Select program via App

I'm guessing this was mostly the reason it has any connectivity at all. If they can convince you to run an app they can start getting all kinds of data off your cell phone 24/7 if they wanted to, even if the app requests no permissions at all.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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I'm not opposed to smart homes, I love being able to turn my lights on and off from across the room. But I don't know if I understand the use case for a networked washing machine.

Here’s the only terrible use case I’ve found; my Samsung washer and dryer now interrupt movies on my Samsung TV to let me know when they complete a cycle.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a program running on a 480 megahertz microcontroller can quite reasonably crash a million times a second; even a single 80-character error log line would be 80 megabytes per second or 7 terabytes per day. and it would be reasonable to record more telemetry from a crash than a single line

Really megabytes or it's just a typo? If so. How 80 characters could possibly generate so much data?

it's not a tumor. i mean a typo. 80 bytes multiplied by one million times per second equals 80 million bytes (also known as 80 megabytes) per second
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