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LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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A couple of notes:

1. If you must have an IoT device, favor zigbee.

2. Put your IoT devices on a segmented network that you've throttled. IoT devices neither need nor deserve privileged network access.

3. Probably don't use a consumer grade router if you know how to monitor network traffic.

4. That all being said, it feels unlikely that an IoT device would be exposed on a properly configured router to anything beyond vendor spyware.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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> In a follow-up post a day after his initial Tweet, Johnie noted “inaccuracy in the ASUS router tool.” Other LG smart washing machine users showed device data use from their apps. It turns out that these appliances more typically use less than 1MB per day.

Ah! I should have read a little further. I apologize!

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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A couple of notes: 1. If you must have an IoT device, favor zigbee. 2. Put your IoT devices on a segmented network that you've throttled. IoT devices neither need nor deserve privileged network access. 3. Probably don't use a consumer grade router if you know how to monitor network traffic. 4. That all being said, it feels unlikely that an IoT device would be exposed on a properly configured router to anything beyond…

It shouldn't even need internet access. IoT is a stupid name. It's just networking.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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A couple of notes: 1. If you must have an IoT device, favor zigbee. 2. Put your IoT devices on a segmented network that you've throttled. IoT devices neither need nor deserve privileged network access. 3. Probably don't use a consumer grade router if you know how to monitor network traffic. 4. That all being said, it feels unlikely that an IoT device would be exposed on a properly configured router to anything beyond…

It shouldn't even need internet access. IoT is a stupid name. It's just networking.

Uhhh, alright.

Anyhow, many devices require network access for useful functionality.

That network is ideally zigbee.

(It's also possible for Bluetooth to make up for some of the lost featureset for non-realtime applications, so I'd favor Bluetooth smart devices over wifi smart devices.)

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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I created a wifi network for most of the smart appliances at home. It's nice that Unifi hardware lets you choose some of the higher-level wifi protocol options per-network, so I have a modern roaming-enabled 802.11 5GHz network for most devices, and the legacy 2.4GHz one for the fridge and stove to make use of.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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I'm not opposed to smart homes, I love being able to turn my lights on and off from across the room. But I don't know if I understand the use case for a networked washing machine.

Progress tracking, diagnostics, temperature tracking, load unevenness alerting, remote disable if broken, etc.

Re: LG washing machine sending 3.7GB of data a day

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I'm not opposed to smart homes, I love being able to turn my lights on and off from across the room. But I don't know if I understand the use case for a networked washing machine.

I could imagine a situation like, "I will be out all day and only return in the late evening - if I start the wash cycle when leaving, it will sit wet in the machine all day. But if I start it when I return, I will have to stay awake to put it in the dryer. I'd like to start it on a timer so the wash cycle finishes just as I return." But that's both pretty contrived and most non-smart washing machines can do that with a timer anyway.
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