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Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by criley2 »

BadHumans wrote: post #73
gfodor wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See it’s weird since I would consider this a form of immortalization. Some artists are seeing this way, but very few. It seems crazy to me more artists aren’t being amazed that their entire style is now “canon”

Being immortalized doesn't suddenly mean you stop paying bills

This is all so wild to me. All of human art is derivative of other art and all human artists wildly steal from one another.

Further, "style" isn't copyrightable or sellable.

Artists don't sell a style, they sell artwork.

I just think it's wild that the entire human art scene is allowed to blatantly rip each other off (all pop sounds the same, all anime looks the same, all comic books look the same, etc etc) and it's OK, but the second that a computer does it, it's the most horrifying crime against art in history.

I think the fascinating part to me will be when AI is good enough to pick apart human art and point out all the thefts. "You stole this chord, these lyrics are basically ripped from here" "Your style is 98% this artist and you've only really change two elements" etc.

Artists hide behind their influences and it's going to be a new world when a computer can ascertain every single reference that was stolen, going to be a lot of interesting law suits.

Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by maroonblazer »

croes wrote: post #36
Brybry wrote: post #30

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The people who are motivated to create art made art before they were being paid to do so. I don't think they're going to stop. They might release fewer pieces publicly out of style-copying fears. Or if they get paid less they might have less time to spend creating art. Personally I think generative models enable more people to make art and may even let professional artists create more art.

More art = less value. Some people need to live off their art.

Somewhat of an aside - it occurs to me there's an analog in population ethics here, e.g. Parfit's "Repugnant Conclusion".

Would you rather have a few people thriving and the rest not doing so well? Or is it better to have more people doing marginally better, at the cost of those few thriving exceptionally?

Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by rambojohnson »

WA wrote: post #41
imhoguy wrote: post #18

Dunno, I feel sad about artists a bit. I hope they won't stop creating. I am sick of these flashy AI fakes.

Imagine you are an artist and have a specific style and one day you wake up and the computer program that ripped off your style gets credit for that particular style, as in "4000 midjourney artistic styles". Horrible.

As an artist, your style is not the only thing that defines you. It's about how you use that style, similar to how one utilizes a patent. It involves adding your unique human touch, from your voice to your hand on the canvas. it's not the end of the world.

Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by The_Colonel »

ethanbond wrote: post #63
sheepscreek wrote: post #58

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I think artists who create art out of love and passion will be valued even more. Much like how handicrafts in an industrial and mechanized day and age still have their place. Also the countless “amish furniture” references I’ve encountered are a testament to that.

The artistic record is going to be stunning. “Now you can see an explosion in craftsmanship and diversity of perspectives from the Renaissance, when art became professionally viable outside of the patronage of religious/political institutions, to about 2020, when a new technology made it totally unviable for anyone to dedicate their life to developing artistic works. But hobbyist artists kept making it in their free…

Making a living as an artist is often more a function of building a brand, having interesting personality rather than of the art itself.

I don't think AI will affect "high art" much, it will rather destroy careers of "contract artists".

Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by maroonblazer »

jmilldotdev wrote: post #64
KolmogorovComp wrote: post #43

Can anyone share artistic projects that have used generative AI? Where it is used as a tool, and not as a goal. ie something that’s not: - Poster/illustration where stock photo would have been used beforehand - NSFW - Experiments trying to display model quality (like on /r SD) The closest I’ve found so far was Rock paper scissors (found from HN) [0], but it’s unclear if it was really less work than usual CGI/animatio…

https://www.bcad.one/project/7 we produced a connection card game in a couple of months end-to-end using AI. text is a true mixture of our ideas and GPT's 'ideas'. we gave GPT the vibe we wanted, let it generate tons of new stuff, then we heavily curated and remixed it. art is created and curated by various AI tools. it does not rely on any particular artist's style. we bootstrapped the game using our own money, and…

Your EI card game looks intriguing! Can you share an estimated ship date?

Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by The_Colonel »

gumballindie wrote: post #72
omnimus wrote: post #71

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Doubt any companies who needed commercial art will care at all. Most likely they will force artists to use AI to hyper speed up the process and fix some of the imperfections at the end. But there is no way they will be keeping artists exponentionaly so they can produce the same result the “inefficient” way.

I am not against using machine learning, nor am i against companies doing so. What I dont want is stolen property, which a lot of ai currently relies on.

Generative AI are trained on "stolen property" the same way as human artists are trained on "stolen prolerty". Both study previous masters, learn to copy their styles, "inspire" their own art from some combination of existing styles.

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Post by [deleted] »

The_Colonel wrote: post #84
ethanbond wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The artistic record is going to be stunning. “Now you can see an explosion in craftsmanship and diversity of perspectives from the Renaissance, when art became professionally viable outside of the patronage of religious/political institutions, to about 2020, when a new technology made it totally unviable for anyone to dedicate their life to developing artistic works. But hobbyist artists kept making it in their free…

Making a living as an artist is often more a function of building a brand, having interesting personality rather than of the art itself. I don't think AI will affect "high art" much, it will rather destroy careers of "contract artists".

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Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by The_Colonel »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #43

Can anyone share artistic projects that have used generative AI? Where it is used as a tool, and not as a goal. ie something that’s not: - Poster/illustration where stock photo would have been used beforehand - NSFW - Experiments trying to display model quality (like on /r SD) The closest I’ve found so far was Rock paper scissors (found from HN) [0], but it’s unclear if it was really less work than usual CGI/animatio…

I use a website with good night stories for children, the texts are written by humans, but the illustrations are AI generated. There's no consistency in style between stories and it doesn't matter. My daughter loves the illustrations.

Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by gumballindie »

The_Colonel wrote: post #86
gumballindie wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not against using machine learning, nor am i against companies doing so. What I dont want is stolen property, which a lot of ai currently relies on.

Generative AI are trained on "stolen property" the same way as human artists are trained on "stolen prolerty". Both study previous masters, learn to copy their styles, "inspire" their own art from some combination of existing styles.

Perhaps you are not familiar with how ai and machine learning work, and that’s okay, but ai doesn’t “study” and most certainly doesn’t “inspire” itself. It builds token databases that it then regurgitates. There no resemblance of human behaviour, just a simulation. Software always did that.

Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by CharlesW »

CaptainFever wrote: post #77
KolmogorovComp wrote: post #43

Can anyone share artistic projects that have used generative AI? Where it is used as a tool, and not as a goal. ie something that’s not: - Poster/illustration where stock photo would have been used beforehand - NSFW - Experiments trying to display model quality (like on /r SD) The closest I’ve found so far was Rock paper scissors (found from HN) [0], but it’s unclear if it was really less work than usual CGI/animatio…

- Spiderman: Into The Spiderverse (slightly, seems to be in-house): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n12kHKvesc - Everything Everywhere All At Once (Runway AI): https://variety.com/2023/artisans/news/artificial-intelligen... Two massively popular films recently that used generative AI.

> seems to be in-house

This is key. The unethical part is not the use of AI (which is neutral), but corpos taking billions in profits from creators using creators' own copyrighted works. BigAI currently feels entitled to simply take these works for their own use, without permission or licensing.

This isn't hard stuff. Adobe Firefly is an example of an ethical, safe AI-powered art product that has been trained on owned stock images, licensed content, and public domain content.

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