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Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by niels_olson »

revorad wrote: post #81
hlfshell wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please please please have an ultrabook style book on launch. I'm in the market for one and it seems most have trouble running ubuntu :-/. I need a reliable linux laptop seller, so good luck!

We're not doing our own brand machines (not yet ;-). Are you after any specific ultrabook already on the market? Frankly, we are not keen on any of them and find them quite poorly built for the price. The Macbook Airs are much better. We're doing the Thinkpads because the keyboards are by far the best and the build very solid. The X1 is the closest to an ultrabook we could offer.

Revorad, I've been looking at the x220t tablet for, wow, a long time. Any experience with these tablets under Ubuntu? Seems like that beastie, with 4G and an SSD, would be pretty nice. Kills me to buy a laptop that ships with Windows, though 1783 OTD seems not too crazy considering I'll probably be sinking a lot of time into tweaking Ubuntu anyway (or maybe suse -- one of the early tablet linux guys worked for Novell)

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by niels_olson »

heywire wrote: post #194
cryptolect wrote: post #67

Ok, I've just tried my 12.04 / Unity laptop with my 22" monitor. The thing is, I have my laptop on the left, and 22" on the right. So I want to set the Unity launcher to the right hand side of my main screen, the 22" display, so that it doesn't get in the way of scrolling to the laptop's screen. Sounds simple right? Switching the launcher from left to right? Wrong. http://askubuntu.com/questions/123552/unity-launcher…

Be happy that you can get that far. My Dell Vostro V13 crashes as soon as I uncheck the "mirror displays" checkbox. Some light research pointed me to a known bug for this which didn't make it into this release.

question: why did you go with the Vostro? Dell seems to be intent on gutting their ubuntu product line. I can't get Ubuntu with an i5 or i7 processor, a solid state drive, or pretty much anything one might actually want.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by h2s »

wiradikusuma wrote: post #27

i'm thinking of triple-booting my 2009 MBP with Ubuntu (already Bootcamped with Win7). anyone has experience with Ubuntu on MBPs? any problem with hardware? i need a lightweight-but-nice-looking OS for day-to-day Java development (i use IntelliJ), Lion is taxing too much.

I've been running 11.04 on my 2010 MBP for a while. It drains the battery pretty quickly. I had to mess around with the trackpad settings a bit to get that into a usable state, and I had to disable tap-to-click completely because it completely sucks at palm rejection. The startup screen is completely screwy and it often fails to turn the machine off when shutting down.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by heretohelp »

cryptolect wrote: post #67

Ok, I've just tried my 12.04 / Unity laptop with my 22" monitor. The thing is, I have my laptop on the left, and 22" on the right. So I want to set the Unity launcher to the right hand side of my main screen, the 22" display, so that it doesn't get in the way of scrolling to the laptop's screen. Sounds simple right? Switching the launcher from left to right? Wrong. http://askubuntu.com/questions/123552/unity-launcher…

Use Xmonad! :D

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by nebaneba »

niels_olson wrote: post #261
revorad wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're not doing our own brand machines (not yet ;-). Are you after any specific ultrabook already on the market? Frankly, we are not keen on any of them and find them quite poorly built for the price. The Macbook Airs are much better. We're doing the Thinkpads because the keyboards are by far the best and the build very solid. The X1 is the closest to an ultrabook we could offer.

Revorad, I've been looking at the x220t tablet for, wow, a long time. Any experience with these tablets under Ubuntu? Seems like that beastie, with 4G and an SSD, would be pretty nice. Kills me to buy a laptop that ships with Windows, though 1783 OTD seems not too crazy considering I'll probably be sinking a lot of time into tweaking Ubuntu anyway (or maybe suse -- one of the early tablet linux guys worked for Novell…

x201t here, precursor to x220t, running 11.04. Best system ever. Beats the MBP I used before that, and another Windows tablet before that.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by revorad »

rbanffy wrote: post #247
revorad wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently, it's against Ubuntu's broader design goals, which require the launcher always close to the Ubuntu button: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415/comments/2 There are some unofficial plugins which allow you to do it, but that will break future bug updates.

This comment is no longer valid because the Ubuntu button is on the launcher itself.

You're right. I'll look into it and see if there's an easy way to switch sides now without breaking anything.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by revorad »

rbanffy wrote: post #246
TY wrote: post #207

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Just signed up. Would love to hear more about your business. It's really a pain to find a laptop that would not suck under Linux for any of the important dimensions (wifi, battery life, external monitor support, working fn keys and etc). I know of System76 and etc, but their hardware doesn't inspire me much (spoiled by Apple).

> It's really a pain to find a laptop that would not suck under Linux for any of the important dimensions (wifi, battery life, external monitor support, working fn keys and etc). I have nothing but good things to say about Dell computers. Of course, I am a bit careful not to choose ATI or Nvidia graphics or anything that seems designed to run only Windows. The v131 I'm using now works perfectly (and came with Ubuntu…

The trouble with Dell laptops is that the quality variance is really high. Mostly anecdotally speaking, I've found that the number of people who had a terrible experience with Dell and the number who had a good one are about equal.

The most common problem is the battery conking out after a year or so, and then the replacement choice is either a ridiculously expensive one from Dell (which costs a third of the laptop itself!) or a cheap Chinese gamble from ebay. The screen hinges also break sooner than later.

Still, I think on the cheaper end, Dell laptops are better than Acer and Toshiba. Their keyboards are not amazing but at least they don't try to do any cute stunts with them. The Vostro is surprisingly well built.

Shame the Ubuntu version is not available in the UK (or maybe I just failed their website easter egg hunt).

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by desas »

beagle3 wrote: post #128
freehunter wrote: post #58

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The notifications in the newer Ubuntu really do irritate me. In releases of old (if my memory is correct), notifications could be clicked to bring up the program that was notifying you. Now they just go semi-transparent and can't be clicked, so I have to open the program manually. Not a huge deal, but it could have a better UX by being interactive (I'd love to be able to reply to a chat message within the notificatio…

> Now they just go semi-transparent and can't be clicked I'm running 10.10 and it's the same as you describe. Which I think is the right way to do it, for anything that pops up unexpectedly. Thunderbird (and others) doe notifications the way you describe, but I don't think ubuntu (or any other distribution, or even osx for that matter) ever let you click directly on the system-wide notifications.

In ubuntu they used to work like that until 10.04. In other distributions it's still common IIRC.

Ubuntu swapped out the common notification daemon for one called notify-osd.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by revorad »

mlinksva wrote: post #253
revorad wrote: post #50

If you have any issues (in addition to the ones already mentioned by others here), please let me know. If you're interested in buying Thinkpads with Linux pre-installed and fully tested, please sign up here - http://giniji.com/ubuntu_laptops.html

I signed up, good luck! I'm curious, what does selling Thinkpads with Linux pre-installed involved? Does Lenovo sell in bulk as an OEM, OS-less? Other companies have sold Thinkpads running Linux for years (Emperor Linux, IIRC) but at a large markup, such that I assume they're buying in tiny quantities, maybe even retail one at a time, unboxing/installing Linux/boxing/reshipping (pure conjecture, I've never looked int…

Thanks for signing up. We're part of the Lenovo Partner network and are making a deal with them to buy in bulk. We don't want to sell overpriced machines like Emperor Linux (an equal spec T420 costs $1430 on Emperor vs $859 on Lenovo!).
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