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Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by ryandrake »

wand3r wrote: post #395
matheusmoreira wrote: post #366

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Stop paying them. If you pay, you'll actually become a better product rather than cease being the product.

I don't even use Amazon, but I definitely sympathize with prime subscribers. It's nearly a requirement for average people in their 30s. Have kids or limited time? Spouse likes a show on prime? Live in a rural area and the walmart 30 minutes away doesn't carry what you need? Shop at wholefoods regularly? Use a kindle? As a single eccentric mid 30s guy in a small city, I get by without it. Its still annoying for me. Th…

> I don't even use Amazon, but I definitely sympathize with prime subscribers. It's nearly a requirement for average people in their 30s.

This seems like an exaggeration. You don't need to pay for Prime in order to shop on Amazon. You can even get free shipping without it. I can't think of any reason I'd want it. The only time I've ever had Prime was when Amazon somehow dark-patterned me into accidentally clicking it. I don't think not having Prime makes you eccentric, nor is eccentricity a prerequisite for living your life without a totally optional shopping service.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by davidparks21 »

maxbond wrote: post #580
davidparks21 wrote: post #578

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That way of looking at it feels like it focuses on the one error while ignoring that, in all likelihood, the same action that caused the error, probably improved 1000 other listings. I guess I'm a glass half full kinda person, this shows me that someone is working on improving things. And I bet they're quite flush from all the attention cause by their oversight in a big spreadsheet. I bet they won't miss the next one…

Why do you suggest that? What do you think the seller's goal was in employing an LLM? Was it to improve quality, or to drive down costs?

I suspect someone was tasked with using the latest tools to improve a bunch of listings. 50 years ago they were given a typewriter for the same task, today they were given an LLM. It just feels like someone doing their job to me. Different year different tool. We no longer hand-transcribing books anymore, we don't lament that, and we won't lament LLMs one day either.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by CrazyStat »

refulgentis wrote: post #574
CrazyStat wrote: post #564

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Using weasel words doesn’t make your claim any more correct.

It's not "weasel words" -- there's a difference between an "experiment where city government changes traffic light patterns" and "experiment as in Institutional Review Board", and I suggest relaxing in general.

No, there’s not. Any of the examples I gave could be conducted by university researchers subject to the IRB, or by corporate/government researchers not subject to an IRB and informed consent requirements. When I worked in my university’s statistical consulting center in graduate school I could have consulted on the same experiment either subject to IRB or not depending on who the client was.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by qingcharles »

edgyquant wrote: post #163
redcobra762 wrote: post #150

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As someone who uses Amazon regularly, we live in different worlds. My experience is pleasant and straightforward; I get what I want and it arrives quickly.

Yeah we must. Nothing I but from Amazon is what I expect and top that off with it arrives late despite me paying for prime. I ordered a blender last week that doesn’t even blend, which I only realized after I had loaded it up with stuff to make a smoothie. When things show up and actually are what I expect based off of the image and they work right it is a rare surprise.

They were late delivering an NVidia GPU I ordered before Xmas and when I complained to the agent he was like "You know what, keep the GPU when it arrives. And I'm refunding the purchase price. And I'm sending you a $5 gift card now too."

So, Amazon bought my good will back again with that. They shouldn't have had to do it, though.

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Post by BizarreByte »

pompino wrote: post #509
cyanydeez wrote: post #503

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that's a nice quaint small town logic. we are talking about millions of lives across many industries. government is the family no matter how you personally emotionally identify it.

In a democracy you have to make a case for it. I don't want the government spending tax dollars so they can recommend which sneakers or USB power adapter I can buy. Curation of a marketplace is not an essential service by any stretch of the imagination.

> USB power adapter I can buy

Until your house burn downs or it destroys your phone. Minimum enforced standards are a good thing because the vast majority of consumers are not capable of evaluating the safety and compatibility of devices.

You can't just trust the seller or people you know about a power supply (in this example) being safe.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by AlecSchueler »

cedws wrote: post #198
Retr0id wrote: post #55

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Sometimes it "apologizes" rather than saying "sorry", you could build a fairly solid heuristic but I'm not sure you can catch every possible phrasing. OpenAI could presumably add a "did the safety net kick in?" boolean to API responses, and, also presumably, they don't want to do that because it would make it easier to systematically bypass.

It's hilarious that people think ChatGPT is about to change the world when interaction with it is this primitive.

Dogs and horses changed the world with much more primitive communication skills.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by refulgentis »

CrazyStat wrote: post #584
refulgentis wrote: post #574

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It's not "weasel words" -- there's a difference between an "experiment where city government changes traffic light patterns" and "experiment as in Institutional Review Board", and I suggest relaxing in general.

No, there’s not. Any of the examples I gave could be conducted by university researchers subject to the IRB, or by corporate/government researchers not subject to an IRB and informed consent requirements. When I worked in my university’s statistical consulting center in graduate school I could have consulted on the same experiment either subject to IRB or not depending on who the client was.

Thank you for the shift in tone: I'm honestly unsure what you mean, steelmanning: you worked as a consultant at a university and not all work you did involving experiments was for IRB experiments --- I guess what I'd say is, the fact you're able to make that distinction does seem to confirm my initial observation that the grandparent of my original post in this thread was drawing on IRB-style experiments to condemn excesses of colloquial-style experiments in tech.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by userbinator »

I remember things like Translate Server Error (https://i.redd.it/kqqkgaro8ir71.jpg) and other instances of error messages finding their way into places where the output would normally be (another one: https://i.imgur.com/RAVOuwg.jpg ). It's not surprising to see this is now happening with AI too.

Re: I'm sorry but I cannot fulfill this request it goes against OpenAI use policy

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Post by pompino »

cyanydeez wrote: post #523
pompino wrote: post #509

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In a democracy you have to make a case for it. I don't want the government spending tax dollars so they can recommend which sneakers or USB power adapter I can buy. Curation of a marketplace is not an essential service by any stretch of the imagination.

sure you do. you actually want your electronics to interoperate. everyone wants to not have to think about things. really, you disagree with society and it's really impossible to look at modern society and think this happens just by random good nature and not well to poorly coordinated hierarchy. you already benefit from existing regulations but they're so painless that you've intrinsicalyy assumed they're naturally…

Gasoline? clean water? Huh? We're talking about Amazon here. I find it hard to believe you're a real person. What a bizarre comment.
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