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dylan604 wrote: post #264
altairprime wrote: post #53

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No. Random employees have a well-understood distribution of mostly normal human errors of certain types and estimated severity, relative to unattended LLM which has a poorly-understood distribution of errors in both type and severity. (“SolidGoldMagikarp”.)

copy&paste errors are exactly what human employees are good at. this could very easily be the result of a bad copy&paste by a human into a form. especially if the copy&paste text is in a language not understood by the human employee. to them, it might look just like one of the other hundreds of search term word salad used as titles

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Post by blowski »

joegahona wrote: post #286
Reason077 wrote: post #245

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The worst thing for me is how the Amazon search algorithm seems to want to show you everything but the item you searched for. In many categories, even when explicitly searching for brand and model names, you’ll get dozens of off-brand substitutions and even random unrelated products appearing above it in the search results. Occasionally I’ve even noticed products that are available for sale (if you click on a direct…

This is definitely the worst thing about Amazon. I pay them $120/year or whatever, and I search a specific product by a specific brand, and the entire browser screen shows me brands and even products I didn't even search for. I should not get ads in a store that I pay to use, especially in search.

If they keep you showing you ads, and you keep paying them $120, then I can't see why they'd stop showing you ads.

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Post by sethhochberg »

redcobra762 wrote: post #253
moolcool wrote: post #242

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Search Amazon for "Whetstone". You'll find tons of quality products from legitimate brands, mixed indiscriminately with the exact same dropshipped trash item repeated over and over for countless pages. Amazon has been entirely enshittified.

I dunno how to square “tons of quality products from legitimate brands” with “entirely enshittified”…

Having to care enough and educate yourself about how to tell the difference adds a lot of friction to the shopping experience. I have no qualms about buying from Amazon if I know exactly what I’m looking for and I’m shopping in a category where I’m at least pretty confident I’m not going to get counterfeit stuff (Apple accessories? Forget it).

But when I just need some basic household thing and don’t want to become an expert on the category, I often shop from other retailers where I can just be pretty sure they aren’t selling garbage.

Any porcelain measuring spoon someone like Crate and Barrel sells is probably a decent porcelain measuring spoon, but if I buy that on Amazon, I have to worry about which brands are legit so I don’t end up getting a spoon with porcelain-look paint that will flake off or something like that.

A marketplace where almost anybody can sell almost anything has a completely different level of trust than a store where professional buyer is making a conscious decision about what products they should carry - the presence of many low quality products dilutes the entire marketplace, even the quality products from legitimate brands

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Post by hateful »

anatolecallies wrote: post #290
moolcool wrote: post #132

Using Amazon for shopping is terrible, borderline unusable in 2024. They're hard to compete with because they're giant and have an amazing logistics network, but it also seems like there's a big vacuum in the market for an "everything store" that's actually good.

Can you be more specific about what is terrible about Amazon ? Cause you just said they have an amazing logistics network + everything for sale

You can search for something simple on Amazon - scroll past to the end of the results and not find it.

You can then open up your favorite Search Engine and see it as the first result, linking to Amazon.

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Post by pompino »

silisili wrote: post #149
moolcool wrote: post #132

Using Amazon for shopping is terrible, borderline unusable in 2024. They're hard to compete with because they're giant and have an amazing logistics network, but it also seems like there's a big vacuum in the market for an "everything store" that's actually good.

I'd really like a more 'curated' or vetted everything store. I don't need to see 40 of the same exact item rebranded into various English horrors. Walmart seems most primed to do this, barring third party sales. Or Sears, if they ever had a miraculous turnaround to their old days.

Talk to friends and family, and only buy when someone has had a positive experience with a product before. Use outlets like consumer reports that do long-term reviews, etc.

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Post by mst »

redcobra762 wrote: post #253
moolcool wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Search Amazon for "Whetstone". You'll find tons of quality products from legitimate brands, mixed indiscriminately with the exact same dropshipped trash item repeated over and over for countless pages. Amazon has been entirely enshittified.

I dunno how to square “tons of quality products from legitimate brands” with “entirely enshittified”…

Google search results still have -some- useful links.

(I'm still having good results from amazon but I can understand 'entirely enshittified' as an opinion from people getting a similar thing there)

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Post by dylan604 »

whacko_quacko wrote: post #247
dylan604 wrote: post #229

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If you're curated, you're not everything. If you want everything, well, expect everything.

Feels like arguing semantics instead of replying to the stated wish I can't get a hitman on amazon, so technically it's not an "everything store" to begin with. But for the purposes of this conversation it clearly is

no, now, you're thinking of Silk Road or some such.

The vast vast majority of consumers will only expect to find legal products/services on an everything store. If you are going to qualify everything to include things that will potentially land the user in prison, then sure, we shouldn't call it everything.

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Post by rsync »

silisili wrote: post #149
moolcool wrote: post #132

Using Amazon for shopping is terrible, borderline unusable in 2024. They're hard to compete with because they're giant and have an amazing logistics network, but it also seems like there's a big vacuum in the market for an "everything store" that's actually good.

I'd really like a more 'curated' or vetted everything store. I don't need to see 40 of the same exact item rebranded into various English horrors. Walmart seems most primed to do this, barring third party sales. Or Sears, if they ever had a miraculous turnaround to their old days.

"I'd really like a more 'curated' or vetted everything store."

It exists for tools and parts and hardware: mcmaster.com

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Post by altairprime »

dylan604 wrote: post #264
altairprime wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Random employees have a well-understood distribution of mostly normal human errors of certain types and estimated severity, relative to unattended LLM which has a poorly-understood distribution of errors in both type and severity. (“SolidGoldMagikarp”.)

copy&paste errors are exactly what human employees are good at. this could very easily be the result of a bad copy&paste by a human into a form. especially if the copy&paste text is in a language not understood by the human employee. to them, it might look just like one of the other hundreds of search term word salad used as titles

Whether it’s human or not is irrelevant to the point: human beings fail much more predictably.

When the same search term salad is presented hundreds of times for copy paste, a human would notice and have an opportunity to ask a supervisor.

A chatbot automation would not notice the repetition unless it had been coded to detect repetition, and/or to reject the ChatGPT refusal message.

Ironically, it was probably an automation coded by ChatGPT.

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Post by nitwit005 »

emporas wrote: post #231
nitwit005 wrote: post #130

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I brought up translation as a risk with a friend. If you pay someone for a translation these days, there is a chance they will just feed it to some AI to cut costs. You'll have no way to validate yourself if you don't speak the language.

Just a chance? I routinely translate hundred pages of pdfs to greek, in 3 minutes. The translation is far from perfect depending the text and it still needs a human in the loop for corrections, but i couldn't imagine translating a 300 pages pdf to greek by hand. There is also the translaxy bot on poe.com which i use to translate english or modern greek to ancient greek. Out of this world good translation. I mean, are…

Hundreds of millions are spent on translators every year. It's a major expense in the EU budget, for example. A lot of people are going to jail for fraud if people aren't actually doing the work.
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