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Post by CydeWeys »

Solvency wrote: post #257
Reason077 wrote: post #245

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The worst thing for me is how the Amazon search algorithm seems to want to show you everything but the item you searched for. In many categories, even when explicitly searching for brand and model names, you’ll get dozens of off-brand substitutions and even random unrelated products appearing above it in the search results. Occasionally I’ve even noticed products that are available for sale (if you click on a direct…

While it's obvious that this is somehow commercially/financially advantageous to Amazon, I'd love to know more about why. What are the economics behind the shovelware merchandise Amazon upranks to users?

It's very simple. Amazon makes a lot of money on advertising and pay-for-placement within their store listings. So when you run a search, Amazon can easily make more money by showing items that they're paid the most to show, vs what you were actually looking for.

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Post by SoftTalker »

edgyquant wrote: post #163
redcobra762 wrote: post #150

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As someone who uses Amazon regularly, we live in different worlds. My experience is pleasant and straightforward; I get what I want and it arrives quickly.

Yeah we must. Nothing I but from Amazon is what I expect and top that off with it arrives late despite me paying for prime. I ordered a blender last week that doesn’t even blend, which I only realized after I had loaded it up with stuff to make a smoothie. When things show up and actually are what I expect based off of the image and they work right it is a rare surprise.

I haven't ordered anything from Amazon in years so I don't know how they are today. I imagine they are worse now. The last thing I ordered was a repair part for a washing machine. What I got was an obviously used, returned/repackaged, broken part. That's when I gave up.

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Post by johnny_canuck »

redcobra762 wrote: post #150
moolcool wrote: post #132

Using Amazon for shopping is terrible, borderline unusable in 2024. They're hard to compete with because they're giant and have an amazing logistics network, but it also seems like there's a big vacuum in the market for an "everything store" that's actually good.

As someone who uses Amazon regularly, we live in different worlds. My experience is pleasant and straightforward; I get what I want and it arrives quickly.

If you have a specific product that you are looking for and it is eligible for Prime then I have found this to be the experience.

Where I have not found that is if I am browsing, e.g. today I wanted to look for an evaporative humidifier. The top results are sponsored and for brands I have never heard of like YougetTech. I find I have to depart Amazon, Google / Reddit for things to get a sense of what the trusted brands are and then go back on Amazon to purchase it.

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Post by dylan604 »

altairprime wrote: post #53
sandworm101 wrote: post #37

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>> unattended LLM do anything for your company at all. It can, and will, fuck up dramatically sooner or later. So, just like any other random employee?

No. Random employees have a well-understood distribution of mostly normal human errors of certain types and estimated severity, relative to unattended LLM which has a poorly-understood distribution of errors in both type and severity. (“SolidGoldMagikarp”.)

copy&paste errors are exactly what human employees are good at. this could very easily be the result of a bad copy&paste by a human into a form. especially if the copy&paste text is in a language not understood by the human employee. to them, it might look just like one of the other hundreds of search term word salad used as titles

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Post by EchoReflection »

dylan604 wrote: post #229
silisili wrote: post #149

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I'd really like a more 'curated' or vetted everything store. I don't need to see 40 of the same exact item rebranded into various English horrors. Walmart seems most primed to do this, barring third party sales. Or Sears, if they ever had a miraculous turnaround to their old days.

If you're curated, you're not everything. If you want everything, well, expect everything.

"everything" but only the "high quality" (or highER quality) instances of everything. seems pretty reasonable.

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Post by otikik »

redcobra762 wrote: post #150
moolcool wrote: post #132

Using Amazon for shopping is terrible, borderline unusable in 2024. They're hard to compete with because they're giant and have an amazing logistics network, but it also seems like there's a big vacuum in the market for an "everything store" that's actually good.

As someone who uses Amazon regularly, we live in different worlds. My experience is pleasant and straightforward; I get what I want and it arrives quickly.

I have experienced almost the full cycle of enshittification. I remember when it arrived in my country (Spain). It was great. The catalog was very good. Customer service was very responsive. If I had a problem, they would return the money, no questions asked.

We were foolish to think that situation would last.

Nowadays the search is unusable. Unless you go to an individual brand's "amazon shop", you will only get products from UUMEBE, SYLTOM and YGWEEN. And "Amazon's pick" will be either Amazon's own product or TROWLY. Perhaps on the fourth page you will get a proper brand. You get products at $1 with a shipping cost of $67. Customer service now asks many questions. When you want to return something, the site uses dark patterns to try to nudge you into getting the products to the post office yourself instead of sending you a messenger. And the prime subscription price went up.

I cancelled my prime account. If I want Chinese quality merchandise there's a Chinese store very nearby where I can go and look at the plastic at least.

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Post by EchoReflection »

whacko_quacko wrote: post #247
dylan604 wrote: post #229

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If you're curated, you're not everything. If you want everything, well, expect everything.

Feels like arguing semantics instead of replying to the stated wish I can't get a hitman on amazon, so technically it's not an "everything store" to begin with. But for the purposes of this conversation it clearly is

good response

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Post by alexzhues »

Reason077 wrote: post #245
moolcool wrote: post #132

Using Amazon for shopping is terrible, borderline unusable in 2024. They're hard to compete with because they're giant and have an amazing logistics network, but it also seems like there's a big vacuum in the market for an "everything store" that's actually good.

The worst thing for me is how the Amazon search algorithm seems to want to show you everything but the item you searched for. In many categories, even when explicitly searching for brand and model names, you’ll get dozens of off-brand substitutions and even random unrelated products appearing above it in the search results. Occasionally I’ve even noticed products that are available for sale (if you click on a direct…

I believe this occurs because Amazon allows sellers to promote their items by bidding on keywords— and often times, the highest quality keywords will be specific category-defining brands or products. At the same time, the original supplier of that brand or product keyword won’t need to spend their advertising budget on that query because customer conversion is high enough despite the friction.
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